http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2009/10/love-vs-justice/ "A tiny act can have profound effects." Wed, 06 Oct 2010 00:09:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2009/10/love-vs-justice/comment-page-7/#comment-20470 beevee56 Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:05:11 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=826#comment-20470 Though this man says he is not racist I think he may be. Sure he says he isn’t but the fact that he refuses to marry the interracial couple makes it seem as if he is. I get how Sam Richards says that because he refuses to marry the black man to the white woman he is treating them equally and is probably not racist but would he marry a Hispanic man to a white woman? Also, I don’t think he should decide who can get married to who, his job is to do as asked with his opinion in mind but whether two people can get married or not should not be where his opinion comes into play. Though this man says he is not racist I think he may be. Sure he says he isn’t but the fact that he refuses to marry the interracial couple makes it seem as if he is. I get how Sam Richards says that because he refuses to marry the black man to the white woman he is treating them equally and is probably not racist but would he marry a Hispanic man to a white woman? Also, I don’t think he should decide who can get married to who, his job is to do as asked with his opinion in mind but whether two people can get married or not should not be where his opinion comes into play.

]]> http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2009/10/love-vs-justice/comment-page-7/#comment-12824 Blanquita Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:24:06 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=826#comment-12824 I think it’s absolutely insane that someone would refuse to give a biracial couple a marriage license but I am not surprised. Although we have come a long way in our view of race relations, there are still many people in 60+ years of age that were brought up in very segregated communities. These people are very stubborn and find it hard to change their point of view as they get older. I’m not saying these people can justify their beliefs, but I understand somewhat where they are coming from. I have elders in my own family that have very distinct views of biracial relationships. I am a white female and I was just recently in a relationship with a Hispanic male. We were only together for a few months but I never experienced any negative reactions of bystanders. I am sure that my grandfather would have initially had a confused reaction if he met this guy. However, I truly believe that any of my close family members would be forced to really think about their reasoning and come to accept anything that made me happy. I said that I would adopt a child of different ancestry and I would like to think I would use a sperm or egg from people of another ancestry but I know I would definitely have to think about the second scenario. I think I would be more comfortable if I had a child from my own egg and a sperm from another ancestry rather than having a complete foreign child in my body. I have no issue with the race of the baby, but I do think I would feel somewhat detached from the child at first, even after carrying it for 9 months. Sam makes a really good point when he compares the statements of SOC 119 students to the Justice of the Peace. Although both instances are justified by “protection of the children”, I think the judge’s case is different because he affecting the other people directly, while the SOC 119 students would essentially only be affecting themselves by the decision. I wasn’t able to watch the video, but I would be interested in how genuine the man actually sounded. I wonder if he truly does not regret his actions or if he is just stubborn. Maybe he doesn’t want to sound like a hypocrite. No one wants to admit their faults. I hate the fact that his definition of “racist” is “when you treat black people differently than white people”. That sentence made me so angry and I can’t comprehend how people continue to think in these ways. This definition is obviously a racist’s narrow-minded definition of the word racism. You can tell that the person who said this was white. In general, I wonder how difficult it is for human beings to change their beliefs at different ages and what outside factors are associated with rate of change. I think it’s absolutely insane that someone would refuse to give a biracial couple a marriage license but I am not surprised. Although we have come a long way in our view of race relations, there are still many people in 60+ years of age that were brought up in very segregated communities. These people are very stubborn and find it hard to change their point of view as they get older. I’m not saying these people can justify their beliefs, but I understand somewhat where they are coming from. I have elders in my own family that have very distinct views of biracial relationships.
I am a white female and I was just recently in a relationship with a Hispanic male. We were only together for a few months but I never experienced any negative reactions of bystanders. I am sure that my grandfather would have initially had a confused reaction if he met this guy. However, I truly believe that any of my close family members would be forced to really think about their reasoning and come to accept anything that made me happy.
I said that I would adopt a child of different ancestry and I would like to think I would use a sperm or egg from people of another ancestry but I know I would definitely have to think about the second scenario. I think I would be more comfortable if I had a child from my own egg and a sperm from another ancestry rather than having a complete foreign child in my body. I have no issue with the race of the baby, but I do think I would feel somewhat detached from the child at first, even after carrying it for 9 months.
Sam makes a really good point when he compares the statements of SOC 119 students to the Justice of the Peace. Although both instances are justified by “protection of the children”, I think the judge’s case is different because he affecting the other people directly, while the SOC 119 students would essentially only be affecting themselves by the decision. I wasn’t able to watch the video, but I would be interested in how genuine the man actually sounded. I wonder if he truly does not regret his actions or if he is just stubborn. Maybe he doesn’t want to sound like a hypocrite. No one wants to admit their faults. I hate the fact that his definition of “racist” is “when you treat black people differently than white people”. That sentence made me so angry and I can’t comprehend how people continue to think in these ways. This definition is obviously a racist’s narrow-minded definition of the word racism. You can tell that the person who said this was white. In general, I wonder how difficult it is for human beings to change their beliefs at different ages and what outside factors are associated with rate of change.

]]> http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2009/10/love-vs-justice/comment-page-7/#comment-12722 Anonymous Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:44:44 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=826#comment-12722 I read the blog posting “Love Vs. Justice” and surprisingly I did not hear about this story through any media outlets. At first thought I did think that this was outrageous, but I was one of the people who said I was not sure if I would adopt or use the sperm or egg of someone with a different ancestry than me. I never said that I would not, but it is one of those circumstances that I feel I cannot make an accurate judgment on without it actually happening. I think that having a child is important to me, but part of the reason I want to have a child is to have a part of me being instilled in that child. I know that an adoptive parent gives the same love and care to their children that they would if they were their biological parents; however, it is important for me to reproduce because I want to keep my family going. I cannot distinguish down the road how important it will be to me just to be a mother. I have always grown up and dreamed of having a family, like most girls I know, but the possibility of it being impossible has never really crossed my mind. I know that if I was one of those women who could not reproduce I would be devastated but I just do not know what my plan of action would be. I do not want to be hypocritical but I do think that what the judge is doing and what I may or may not do are two different things. The judge’s job is to grant people with marriage licenses, not discriminate because of his own opinions. I have heard from a number of places that soon most people will be bi racial within the next few decades. I do think that this is the direction that our country is heading. Although people do still turn to look when they see a white man or woman with a black man or woman I think that it is becoming more and more accepted as a part of our culture. I found the judge’s response very interesting when asked if he was racist. His definition of racism is a little skewed in my mind because he only talks about black people being treated different from white people, but he fails to recognize all the other races in the world. Although I still think his actions are wrong, he is treating the black man and the white woman the same by denying both of them their rights. The thing that is wrong in his logic is he says it will be hard for the kids, yet legally they are allowed to get married so someone will marry them eventually. I just do not understand why he would cause all this controversy when it is going to happen anyways. I read the blog posting “Love Vs. Justice” and surprisingly I did not hear about this story through any media outlets. At first thought I did think that this was outrageous, but I was one of the people who said I was not sure if I would adopt or use the sperm or egg of someone with a different ancestry than me. I never said that I would not, but it is one of those circumstances that I feel I cannot make an accurate judgment on without it actually happening. I think that having a child is important to me, but part of the reason I want to have a child is to have a part of me being instilled in that child. I know that an adoptive parent gives the same love and care to their children that they would if they were their biological parents; however, it is important for me to reproduce because I want to keep my family going. I cannot distinguish down the road how important it will be to me just to be a mother. I have always grown up and dreamed of having a family, like most girls I know, but the possibility of it being impossible has never really crossed my mind. I know that if I was one of those women who could not reproduce I would be devastated but I just do not know what my plan of action would be. I do not want to be hypocritical but I do think that what the judge is doing and what I may or may not do are two different things. The judge’s job is to grant people with marriage licenses, not discriminate because of his own opinions. I have heard from a number of places that soon most people will be bi racial within the next few decades. I do think that this is the direction that our country is heading. Although people do still turn to look when they see a white man or woman with a black man or woman I think that it is becoming more and more accepted as a part of our culture. I found the judge’s response very interesting when asked if he was racist. His definition of racism is a little skewed in my mind because he only talks about black people being treated different from white people, but he fails to recognize all the other races in the world. Although I still think his actions are wrong, he is treating the black man and the white woman the same by denying both of them their rights. The thing that is wrong in his logic is he says it will be hard for the kids, yet legally they are allowed to get married so someone will marry them eventually. I just do not understand why he would cause all this controversy when it is going to happen anyways.

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