Men of the World Unite…Before It’s Too Late!

posted by Sam Richards

justiceSo here’s an article that will surely raise the blood pressure of some of you. It’s about men and sports and accusations of misconduct and women and power and jumping to conclusions. Yeah…all of that.

You really just need to read the article, but before YOU jump to a conclusion, consider how often you do so without knowing all of the facts. In an honest society, one where people actually lived the adage “innocent before proven guilty,” you’d have no opinion when you hear that someone has been accused of some misdeed.

OK…so i just read a bunch of responses to this blog. Please consider the following: imagine how you might engage in unwanted sex (i.e., be “assaulted”) but not immediately say anything because you are trying to convince yourself that what just happened didn’t really happen, that it was really consensual, that you enjoyed it, that it’s not a big deal, and so on. Imagine that you try to supress the experience but then a week or two later realize that you cannot do that. This is extremely common and may be what happened with this woman. I say this because I’m struck by the large number of you who think this woman is “evil” but still don’t know a damn thing about what happened.

READ it yourself.

Clearly the author of the piece isn’t standing behind the idea that people are innocent until proven guilty; she is allowing her anger to drive her ideas. But then, she makes a provocative point about coming to the defense of people we don’t even know and would never know if we were not celebrity sycophants. (Okay, it’s not really the right word but it feels good.)

In any case, her main idea is one that is worth considering. Why? Just read the comments that are linked to this video:

So now check out the nine comments from this same video that I pulled from the YouTube site:

What a stupid fuckin whore. Bitches like that make it hard for real sexual assault victims to find justice. On top of that, she couldve ruined his life with this lie. If there is justice, this bitch will pay. I dont want her to get hurt, but she should spend time in prison or at least a mental ward.

She did not repor to police because they do a physical exam to confirm her claim and like craigblast said will charge her with a crime if lying. this a bogus claim. nothing can be proved here

This is a bunch of Crap! This was a casual enounter at best between a man an a woman that lead to more. He did nothing wrong but be a popular athlete and she is a gold digger! How lame is that, i was “raped” but i wont report it to police because im afraid the casino will fire me, HAVE A SPINE AND STAND UP FOR YOURSELF IF ITS TRUE

She tells the Hotel Security Guards but didn`t tell the Cops? No why? because she was smart, filing a fake police report is a crime, so what she did was tell the Hotel Security just so she can say she reported the crime. Now after the charges were dismiss she`s trying to save face and make Ben look bad by wanting him to donate money to the Abused women Association. How many women if they were really raped would just want an apology? Or just sue for $400,000, when Ben is worth a $100,000,000?

what is it with americans fucking trying to sue everybody? get your own fucking money stupid woman!

What a bitch trying to set him up like that.

set up!

she must be a browns fan

Civil suits like this should not be a loud [sic] without a criminal trail first.

Stupid fuckin’ whore? Bitch? Wow. Like these people know the truth about what happened. These comments give the author of the article a great deal of credibility. In fact, it seems to reflect exactly what she’s saying.

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288 Responses to Men of the World Unite…Before It’s Too Late!

  1. Northern Lights says:

    I feel bad for this lady, and all women who have to go through this as long as they are not lying of course. I just cannot believe what those people were saying in those comments under that last video. They really have no clue what happened and they have the nerve to call her those names and make rash assumptions. Honestly, for me it makes me take those people less seriously and be more on the side of the women. It is hard to side with anyone really because I do not know the real story either, but I just cannot believe what some of these athletes get away with. It is so amazing how politics can influence a sport so immensely. Getting away with rape?!?!?! That’s so ridiculous. I thought it was so sad to see how athletes see this going on and see it as part of the “game” now.
    It is much more difficult to speak up about being raped than someone of another crime like murder issues, burglary, etc.. So maybe this is why she did not tell the higher authorities. Emotions come into play a lot as well here. Her mental state may have been very confused and confessing to anything could be very difficult. And on the other hand, it is extremely easy, as you can see for an athlete to be able to apologize and pay a little cash to the “poor” ladies.
    I can see how some people will start to make these rash comments like whore and bitch. They just have such a loyal commitment to the players that they will always side with them no matter what. If they are defending the manliest of men Ben Roethlisberger then they also must be manly men and defend their fellow man against the “evil” gold diggers. I will admit there are some women out there who are just looking for a big payout no matter how they have to do it, which of course is sad, but the reality is that these athletes are making far too much, which in turn attracts these women to do this. Ever think of that? Who would though?
    Speaking of other things people would not think of normally, does anyone think that animals(specifically wild animals) can be racist or be prejudice to one another? I have always wondered if there were species of animals that get a hard time from other animals or if one species will gang up with others for the purpose of settling their differences. This is just a little revelation I had one weekend recently. I know it sounds wayyy weird, but I think there may be a whole world of animals that we do not really know about in terms of their Race Relations.

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  2. Tangster says:

    Once again, this story is a story blown out of proportions. First, the media should really stick it’s big, fat, nosy nose out of business when concerning something serious like sexual assault especially when it has celebs in the issue. They always, always cause things to go out of hand and let the original story be buried beneath piles of useless side stories that attract unnecessary attention. This is just a simple story of a young woman seeking justice due to a sexual assault by a man. That’s all we need to know. We don’t need to know that the man is a professional football player or that the woman is a hotel employee. However, we always need to take into consideration that the woman maybe lying for money because it is always possible. As human beings we are always greedy and looking for a quick way out but the main attention should be on that this man needs to be sentenced and punished for this crime he committed.

    Now, about this person who wrote the comment to the youtube video: you’re, uh, questionable since you don’t see both sides of the picture or that you only see the side that the media makes you see. First, there’s no need for name calling of that degree. Just call the victim stupid but no need to add in the title of whore (because for now the victim is not one). Second, the man will not be hurt that badly by the accusations if they’re a lie. If they’re a lie then everyone knows that he’s fine. Third, if it all was a lie then she is going to prison if she can’t pay the fine. There’s no need to send someone you don’t know personally to the mental ward. That’s wasting money that America doesn’t have.

    The reason why the victim didn’t report is probably because: SHE WAS SCARED TOO. Duh, everyone knows that when you’re a victim of sexual assault you’re scared to report it to the police and instead would rather keep it to themselves. But this woman did as you asked her to do: she had a spine and stood up for herself and reported the incident. It takes courage to do such a thing. It was not a causal encounter because if it was then she wouldn’t be claiming rape. But now you’re encouraging her to steal from the assaulter? What are you, wish washy, because I’m certain that you said right after to sue the man for more than asked that she should get her own money? She did right by only wanting an apology and money to donate to that foundation for assaulted victims. Person, I would suggest you think before you right. Please do so and save a lot of people headaches.

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  3. A Large Farva says:

    I remember hearing about this story and thinking that Ben Roethlisberger is the most unlikely candidate to do such a thing. And I’m not even a Steelers fan. I know that there are those girls out there that are the “gold-diggers” of the world; there is no doubt about it. Do I think that this woman is one in this case? Probably not. But, what I also think took place was not rape. I think that it was just a casual exchange between two people that may have gone a little too far. Maybe something happened that the girl did not really want to happen, but did not say anything because of the superstar that Ben Roethlisberger is. And then afterwards, as she thought about it more and more, she convinced herself that she was raped. Now do not get me wrong here, I realize there are those that are raped that do not come out and say that they were raped immediately. I understand that rape cannot only hurt someone physically but a lot of the damage is done emotionally and psychologically. But at the same time I can see how someone can convince himself or herself that they are raped just by over thinking. The problem here is that we will never know the actually truth. If Ben Roethlisberger did rape this woman, then he should pay the penalty that other rapists have to pay. If this girl lied about it, then she should pay the price that people who file false police reports should pay. Or even pay the price of perjury if she lied under oath – if that case even went that far. The point is someone involved in this incident is not telling the truth. Unfortunately, this is the world that we live in where people either lie to keep their image or lie to get ahead in life. What deeply upsets me are people jumping to such bold conclusions about rape cases. We were not there when these people were interacting behind closed doors. We can only rely on what they tell us and the evidence that is provided. That is what our legal system is for, to get to the truth. That may not always happen, but it is the best system we have for doing so. Rape is a very sensitive subject that can create many different opinions from many different people. I think that if those people who jump to conclusions were to talk to someone that has actually been raped, they would get a different sense of how these people feel. Maybe then they will not infer that something has happened when they have no evidence to support what they are saying.

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  4. lateasusual says:

    In terms of the recent activity surrounding sexual assaults and discriminations in the sports world I think it is difficult to judge. One thing for sure is that the public shouldn’t be chiming into the cases that are occurring without knowing the details of the cases. I think just because someone is a fan of a sports team or a certain individual that doesn’t mean someone is guilty or innocent.
    On one hand I think that there are some people out there that are trying to exploit athletes that are in the public spotlight. Certain individuals see these athletes as their key to fame or financial stability and will set them up in order to achieve what they are looking for. The Ben Roethlisberger case seems farfetched on the part of the women but who really knows what exactly happened other than the two parties involved. We as a public can only hope that the judicial system gets the case right and the right person pays for their wrong doings.
    Regarding the women in the sports media being assaulted and watched I think that this uncalled for. I also feel that it is wrong for people to be looking up these videos of the sportscaster when she had no idea what was going on. I blame part of that situation on the internet and how there is hardly no privacy to celebrity private lives. I mean of course if people know that they can look up the video on the internet, which they are going to be curious and look up the videos.
    At the end of the day I think that each sexual assault case should be treated separately and should not be tied together for any reason. Most sexual assault cases are different from the next and just because it may look to be one way it may not be that simple. I think we as a public should stand back and let the judicial process run its course.

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  5. MMMMMM says:

    This is a very interesting case because when there is rape most people would side with woman and not the man. I think that the player being famous helps to deceive some crimes. The woman not filing any charges also seems very suspicious; why not call the police right after you get raped. Come on no one is going to believe the woman. The football player is very rich, and rich people are always being scammed. So when I heard about this woman I thought that she was a gold digger. He has enough money, and it would not hurt to get some of his money. Sex is a very easy thing to get in problems with. Having sex with someone random can be dangerous. The player knows that he is famous and he should not be messing around with random girls. At this point is very hard to figure out if she was sexually assaulted because she is seen as a whore and nothing more. Come on let’s face it a whore does not have a chance against a famous football player star. I think that this could be a scam just because she did not call the police at the time that the crime was committed.
    There is a huge possibility that the woman was actually raped. Many superstars can get away with this stuff easily. There is no way to know who is telling the truth and who is lying. But if the girl does not get a trial then she would be not getting her rights. She was afraid of loosing her job but I do not think that justifies her not calling the police. When you get raped the first thing that you do is call the police no matter where you are. She did not think that she could also sue the place too for firing her; maybe they do not have money. To me the fishy person in the story seems to be the girl, but the football player also seems fishy. He was offering the to donate money in order to keep the thing quiet. I do not know the woman and therefore I cannot say that she is a bad person, but I think that the people that really know her could tell us if she is that kind of a woman. I’m not a fan of football so I can freely say that I don’t care what happens to player or the girl. I can say that I think that the girl is lying. It is also very different to regret a night than to have been raped during that night. There is no real evidence that the woman got raped too.

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  6. Fish says:

    In response to the article, “Men of the World Unite…Before It’s too Late,” my reactions are somewhat two sided because it happens time and time again that people look to take advantage of a rare opportunity when it comes to a celebrity. I also hear constantly stories about people with celebrity status taking advantage of who they are with the hopes of later receiving preferential treatment because of who they are, as if the people who let them off the hook are significantly compensated for the act of letting them go. First off, I do agree with many of the people who suggested that the woman would actually try and defend her accusation by contacting the police immediately after she felt that she was raped instead of just telling other casino workers. Did she feel apprehensive about the potential press coverage that would result from her accusation and feel like she would be called a gold digging whore if others knew that she had hooked up with a celebrity only because of his money and fame? I also feel that if she had just gone straight to the police and clarified that she actually was raped, people would not feel this way about her and for once a person of celebrity status would have received the full penalty which, all of us know, they never receive to the full extent. Another thing that I really was curious about was the way in which everything that happened was initiated. Had Roethlisberger actually done something forcefully by either drugging her or kidnapping her against her will in order to get the woman into a position in which she could not back away from engaging in sexual activity or did the girl go out and get drunk on her own after work and meet him at the bar or something and she was at the time in agreement with going back to his room with him as is the case in the vast majority of one night stands where you hook up with a random someone. Next, what prompted the woman to be afraid of losing her job if she knew she was in the right with her situation? Like many others have stated, the first thing the woman should have been concerned with was her own personal well being and that should have consisted of contacting the right people, the police, who would have handled the situation in the correct matter. Finally, my main grief with the situation was that even though many of the people commenting sound sexist and were feeding the fuel of the person writing the article, they still have valid points that the woman should have been tested in order to prove the validity of her argument if what she claimed was actually true.

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  7. steelers girl says:

    I agree that people jump to conclusions, often times they do it without even knowing it. I think that sometimes people jump to conclusions because they are biased and very close minded so they refuse to believe the truth. I think the story about the lady that said she got raped is actually absurd. I think that she could possibly be making up the whole thing because she knows she can get money out of it. There are so many crazy people that create celebrity scandals for attention. Also it is weird that she told the security at the hotel about being sexually assaulted but she did not file a police report. If it was true in most cases the person would tell and try to catch the guy. On the other hand maybe the lady was actually scared of losing her job. Maybe she was shaken up by the whole situation, but the whole thing seems kind of sketchy. However, I think it is wrong that people automatically assume that the lady is making this up because it was by a celebrity. So they are taking the benefit of the doubt from Big Ben rather than taking the benefit of the doubt from the poor women. Yes it may damage his reputation and his career, but no one knows the true story so it is wrong to automatically think she is lying. People are blinded by the truth because they care more about the media and superficial celebrities rather than someone being physically and mentally harmed. I am from Pittsburgh and I am a Steelers fan, but I refuse to believe that some lady would just be making up this story unless I knew all the details. So the person who said “What a stupid fuckin whore. Bitches like that make it hard for real sexual assault victims to find justice. On top of that, she could have ruined his life with this lie. If there is justice, this bitch will pay. I don’t want her to get hurt, but she should spend time in prison or at least a mental ward,” is most likely just an angry Steelers fan who cares more about the future of a sports team rather than what could be an innocent woman . A woman who was abused and trying to express her emotions but everyone refuses to believe her because a celebrity was involved. This is not only ridiculous but morally wrong. I think that people need to put themselves in her situation, what if you got sexually assaulted? I am sure it would be a terrible thing to deal with, and even worse is having the nerve to tell people. So people need to get their heads out of their asses and believe people when they say something until they are proven wrong, not even just in this case but everyday.

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  8. Cris Cringle says:

    In this case with Ben Rothlisberger I feel that it was something consensual between them. I believe that Ben Rothlisberger did not in fact sexually assault this woman. If she really was strong about her claim of sexual assault why is she trying to make a plea bargain with her lawyer that Rothlisberger must apologize and donate an enormous amount of money to abused women? I feel this was a publicity stunt done by the woman who accused Rothlisberger of these allegations. I also feel that she wanted some type of money out of this. I feel if Rothlisberger did indeed sexually assault this woman, why didn’t she get tests done by authorities to confirm he actually committed such acts? There is a lot of missing pieces in this story which makes it seem to me the story will not hold up in court. Not only does it make Rothlisberger seem as if he is a liar by denying these allegations, it also jeopardizes his professional football career as well as his integrity as a famous icon. This has not been the first case of a female claiming some type of sexual assault on a professional athlete. One of the most dominating figures in NBA basketball rings a bell in my head when this topic comes up. He is a young, rich, and a dominating force in the sports world, Kobe Bryant. Most of these famous athletes whether the NFL or NBA I feel are taken advantage of because of their social or economic status. Women cannot help but be attracted to these sports figures. Women in my opinion may try to take advantage of these men because of their wealth. I feel a lot of women are gold diggers when it comes to dealing with celebrity icons. When Ben Rothlisberger came out in a press conference and denied these allegations I felt as if he was telling the truth. I am not just trying to side with him because I am a male. There have just been too many cases of women claiming sexual assault on sports icons without enough incriminating evidence to back up their claim. I feel that the media plays a great deal on what people think and how they react. The media in this case can construe a story like this and have Ben Rothlisberger seem as a horrible man who sexually assaulted an innocent woman. That is how our society is and there isn’t much we can really do about that. The media has their own spin on a story, and I also feel there is another truthful side of a story. However this case plays out, I just hope that the truth prevails most importantly.

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  9. skyandra says:

    This particular story is very interesting to me. I say this because I myself have heard of cases like this at our very own school where the women claim to have been raped by an athlete and no one believes her nor do they give her an opportunity to explain herself. I feel bad for this woman because like Sam said, when something like this happens, people cant just decide right off the bat what to do. Some take time out to try to convince themselves that what just happened did not happen because of how traumatic it is or that what just happened happens to a lot of people so its not a big deal. In this particular case, the victim also had to take into consideration the fact that he is a widely known athlete and if she were to report this she would get a lot of negative attention, and just attention in general. No one wants the world knowing about such a personal matter like this. Unfortunately, this was a well known occurrence and the media got a hold of it.

    As for the extremely harsh comments – none of those were necessary one bit. No one really knows what went on so how can they make their comments? Just because he plays for the team that you root for does not mean that he can not be guilty of such a crime. People do not understand that when a case like this happens, it needs to be reported immediately other wise it becomes very hard to prove and, in most cases, the court drops the charges. Like the rape case at our school, it was dropped because the victim really had no way to prove that her offender was guilty. People took this as her admitting she was lying and that she just did it to get the glory of being associated with a good athlete. This is very similar to this case with Ben Rothlisburger . People are criticizing and making comments about her asking for an apology and money but when you really think about it, what else can be asked of him now!

    People just assume that because someone is a professional athlete they can not do any harm to anyone. God forbid something does happen and they get blamed for it, its automatically not their fault. The people who accuse them of such things just become liars right off the bat, and in this case, a gold digger. Im not saying that Ben is guilty, nor am I saying he is innocent. All I am saying is that people need to get their facts straight before they make such bold comments like they do.

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  10. Orange Soda says:

    The world is a harsh place, and those comments most certainly prove it. I agree with you, Sam. Nobody knows the real truth, so we can’t be so quick to judge. Still, I feel like things do not add up. I have heard many times that some women try to deny the fact that they have been sexually assaulted or raped, but everyone knows that when something like that happens, the victim usually wants nothing more than to get revenge on the person who has wronged them. Still, regardless of what her intentions may seem to be, we can’t call her a whore, life ruiner, gold digger, or anything else to that extent. We can just look at the facts and wait to see what happens.
    Is that what we will do? Most likely not. What would we do then? Exactly what Sam showed us. We will do exactly what those people who wrote those comments did. We will make an opinion that is most likely against this girl, and we will think bad things about her because of what we are used to hearing about girls and cheating, divorces, and sex scandals. Are we then to assume that this woman is alone? Not at all.
    Think about all of the other ladies out there that can relate to this one that is being judged. There are most certainly other females out there that have been sexually assaulted or raped by others, and they have not reported it. The statistics back this up, but the only people that will probably sympathize are the minority, sadly. People assume that this lady is afraid to report it because she can get in trouble for lying? Let’s stop being so narrow-minded. Think about how she could have felt at the time if this assault really did take place. Think about how afraid she would have been after. Think about how afraid she would have been to report this. Now think about what you were thinking about to begin with: the fact that Ben Roethlisberger is a celebrity and star quarterback for the Steelers.
    Don’t be afraid to question the celebrity. They usually have more resources to make things seem differently than how they occurred. Think about how many scandals haven’t been leaked to the public. How many celebrity cover-ups have we heard of? Think about all of the stories about Roethlisberger. I have heard rumors of him asking a delivery pizza girl if she wanted to do him. Rumors circulate about celebrities, and we constantly see that even real events can turn into “rumors” because celebrities can cover up or get out of almost anything. I even sometimes believe that rappers that go to jail only do so because they really want to for the sake of building their reputation. They could probably get out of it if they wanted to.
    At the end of the day, this author who wrote this article is doing what we all do: judging for no reason. I’m simply observing. I would like to take the white approach on this one and leave you with this: I’m staying out on this one, man.

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  11. TigerGirl says:

    When I saw the video and the comments that people left on it I was shocked at what those people said without knowing what really happened that day or anything and the thing is that people say that because he is a football player and people take the side of their heroes or idols people think that they are gods or something that they will not hurt anyone and it’s not true celebrities are people just like everyone else who are tempted especially while under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I think some people say those things because he is a rich football player and the first thing people say is that she is doing it to get money without really knowing if she did get rape or if she didn’t know that it happened in 2008. Only Big Ben and the women know what really happened that day. The reaction of the comments that they left was amazing to me. Calling her a bitch and saying that she is lying and that “she did not report to the police because they do a physical exam to confirm her claim” no one cares if this women really got raped and because of what people say they might not do something about it and if they do decided to do something it would not be now they might wait until game is over or something and the police should check on that because you would never know may be he did or or may be not. Rapes could be done by anyone it does not matter who it is, it could be a famous person or a regular person . And what is incredible is that since Big Ben is an athlete and she filed a complaint about what he might have done or any athlete people called the women who filed the complaint a slut, bitch, and they even called them a gold digger because people think that what they want is money but if is not an athlete or famous people will not called them like that and thats the sad part. And of course there are women who are gold diggers and because of those women that are lying about sexual assault they do not believe if the rest of the women that did get assault are telling the truth. What people should do is look at both sides and think about it and analyze it not just say unnecessary comments. People making comments just show their ignorance towards the topic. In conclusion I believe that we should analyze both sides instead of just looking at one point of view and criticizing it. It’s important to put our biases aside and look at the evidence.

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  12. whaaattttt says:

    This is a really tough situation to comment on, especially as a girl. You hear all the time about girls who are gold diggers fabricating stories or pulling lawsuits out of what seems like thin air against someone who has money. In my opinion, some, or a minority of them probably are., but others probably not. In addition to high profile cases, there are cases that come up everyday with everyone else in the world. Granted there is a small percentage of the cases that are fabricated for multiple reasons, and most notably and recently the case at Hofstra University. A woman there went the police and reported a gang bang rape and she ended up retracting her story because there was video evidence that it was consensual. She explained she did it so her boyfriend wouldn’t be mad at her. She’s not the only girl in the world who has cried rape in a situation like this but in the process of these girls virtually lying about their experience, they make it harder for real victims to step forward.
    This hotel worker and women like her who get criticized in high profile cases and women who lie make a very difficult and sensitive subject even more difficult and sensitive. People should be a little easier on judging the women in these cases because even though people want to believe that they are the ones in the wrong and not their beloved role model or celebrity, they could be wrong. People need to stop judging so harshly on these women until the case is closed. Evidence needs to be proven and the case needs to come to a close before people can judge. When people, like those who left those nasty comments on the YouTbe video, so openly express their anger toward that women and other women who are victims see that, they get deterred and scared people will think of them the same.
    In this case, I am particularly torn. I am not from Pennsylvania, nor am I a Steelers fan. I do understand out here how crazy people are about their Steelers. It is a little coincidental, if I do say so myself, that this case came up right after the Steelers won the Super Bowl, but nonetheless it could be true. He could have been hyped up in the moment and thought he was the king of everything and did indeed take advantage of this woman in the passion of the moment. Either way, it could be, and it could not be true but it is up to the police and the investigators to gather the evidence and make the proper decision, not just based on his celebrity status.

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  13. --» ♥ ©a$s@nDr@ ♥ «-- says:

    So what I am reading is because he is an athlete he is automatically innocent? As a female growing up in this country we are always told that if we are raped all we must do is go to the police and everything will be fine. It is very easy for most of us to say “Well why not just go to the police?, Since she didn’t report it then she is obviously lying.” I personally do not agree with this. I have never been raped but I do know that if put in the unfortunate situation millions of things might be running through my mind like “Is it my fault?, Will anyone believe me?, Did I lead him on?” People are bashing this woman as if they know for a fact that nothing happened and it’s pretty disgusting to read such comments. Everyone gets scared once in a while and everyone sometimes feels guilty for things that they shouldn’t. I’m not saying that he did in fact rape her and I’m not saying that he didn’t but this is truly only something he and she will ever know. As far as the women attacking her goes, I just feel that as a female we should somewhat feel for her. I can’t really explain it but I know when I hear bad things happening to people I sometimes sympathize more with the female. For the females who swear that this woman is lying just imagine if you give birth to a daughter and she is in a situation where she is raped by a well known person. How would you feel that people didn’t believe her and were calling her all the names in the book?

    “Boys Don’t Cry” is a movie starring Hilary Swank that came out in 1999. This movie was the real-life story of a female to male transgendered person named Brandon Teena who in 1993 was raped by two guys that were her “friends” before they found out “he” was really a “she”. After the rape Teena filed a report with the police and nothing was done. Needless to say the rapist found out about the report (not by the police taking action against them) and decided to murder Teena. When I saw this movie I wondered to myself “Maybe if she didn’t file that report she might have still been alive.” This is something that no one will ever know.

    I didn’t mention the movie to say that Roethlisberger is some sort of nut who would kill someone over this but you never know how crazy some fans can be when it comes to the athletes that they love. I think that this entire thing is an unfortunate situation but I have never and am sure that I will most likely never accuse anyone of something based on some type of bias I may have. As stated by Sam these facts are things that we’ll never know so it is not wise to just jump to conclusions just because one person is more familiar than the other. We really cannot put anything past anyone.

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  14. Prodigy says:

    When watching the video and then reading the ensuing comments, the first thing that came to my mind was where is the justice for the woman. The story does seem a bit fishy and fabricated but what if she really has to go through what she claimed. Moving on I think we really need to weigh all of the facts here. Why is it that this woman cried rape yet did not notify police? The argument could be made that she may have been scarred or afraid. That however is null and void due to the fact that she notified the hotel security. If she felt comfortable enough to notify them then why didn’t she notify the proper authority? The reason why I don’t believe this woman is simple. If she were truly raped she would seek justice for the perpetrator. However she is suing for money and asking him to publicly admit something in order for her to drop the charges. That makes absolutely no sense. Why wouldn’t she gain the money for pain and suffering and make sure justice is served. As fishy as the story sounds there is absolutely no reason to call her a whore, bitch, or slut. The fact still remains what if she is actually telling the truth. Sexism clearly is exemplified in his story. Many people believe that this woman is lying about being raped just because the man is a superstar. All too many times we place these superstars on these pedestals and fail to realize that they to can commit the crimes we as common folk do commit. Immediately those responding to the video see this girl as a liar and someone just out to seek money. This story is a catch-22 for many reasons. On one hand this female could be lying because she is a gold digger and would like to give the athlete a negative image. If this is not the case, then we are being sexist by automatically trying to assume that or come to that conclusion. However what if she was really raped? Where is the accountability for the star? Where is the justice for this woman and the concern for health and well-being? This female could have well been afraid of the backlash she is now receiving by some fans and this could be the reason she did not want to immediately go to police. On the contrary, if she is telling the truth she could’ve done things differently. The main thing is the whole issue about asking him to publicly apologize and shed drops the charges. That in and of itself lowers her credibility and easily makes her a target for ridicule. The ridicule and scorn and its extremes were not necessary however. I feel like some individuals would believe an athlete or role model no matter what before listening to someone’s words. This is because as an athlete we see these stars as perfect people who would never do things do hurt themselves.

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  15. Coach says:

    This is a difficult subject. It’s unfair of people to call the woman a gold digger automatically, but it’s irresponsible to take either side without knowing any details. Fame should not make you more credible than someone else. What can make you lose some credibility is having a questionable story about the incident. I think that if this woman really was raped, as in she was not consenting at all, she would be more concerned with what just happened to her than anything else. What I mean is that I think she would have gone straight to the police if the hotel was trying to keep everything under wraps. I don’t know all the details though so that’s all speculation. It’s not impossible to speculate that Ben Roethlisberger may have gone too far. Sports stars’ egos, or anyone famous for that matter, can get a bit out of control, and they are not used to hearing no. I’m not saying that it’s acceptable; it’s just to some extent understandable. That sounds horrible, but it’s been long observed. It’s long been said, and seen, that power can corrupt someone. The same can be said about money, which in this society translates into some amount of power.
    If it’s true that ESPN sent out an internal memo instructing everyone to not report on the story, that’s just not right. Intentionally suppressing certain stories is horrible. I understand that probably every major news source does it to some extent, so it’s more of a general ethical gripe with this. The news should present relevant events without any spin or misinformation. Additionally they shouldn’t sweep any stories under the rug so to speak. That is probably just a high hope. I don’t know if anything like that can exist in our society. It seems like after an institution gets larger than a few people there’s a much higher chance of corruption. The media is a huge social institution, and for that reason it will likely never be free of corruption.
    I said earlier that fame should not make you more credible than anyone else. It seems like it buys some defense though. Like the article mentioned in the blog entry showed, there will always be someone who’s ready to defend their hero. I don’t want to say that it’s the sports starts fault that they are readily defended, no matter what their actions, because it is not. It appears that it is simply a part of being famous. I don’t know if using women’s bodies as payment is part of that either. I doubt it though. It does not seem likely that a large amount of male sports stars. So basically, I can’t say anything for sure but that’s kinda what I think.

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  16. Jewchebag says:

    Jaclyn Friedman is an idiot, and she’s the worst kind of idiot, one who brings out the worst in other people. She’s so far off the edge that she’s beyond feminism, she’s onto full blown male hatred, a disease characterized by the inability to think, apparently, and to realize that hey, Ben Roethlisberger has millions upon millions of dollars. Who wouldn’t want some of that? It’s the same problem Kobe ran into. Does Ms. Friedman live in the real world, where women are sluts and whores and men douchebags and assholes, and they have sex because it works out for both of them, and maybe they each get a little something? Sex isn’t a bad thing, Ms. Friedman, though I doubt you’d know it based on the fact that you hate men so much you’d probably lop off their penises with a butchers knife if you ever saw one.
    You know why more athletes get away with rape? Because women aren’t star fucking the guy who works at Starbucks to try and get money from him. Extortion, Ms. Friedman, is something far beyond your mental level, apparently. Guess what, when a judge drops the original CRIMINAL charges against Roethlisberger (like it was HOT) odds are, nothing happened, and she’s a money grubbing whore just like most women out there. And I threw that generalization in as a way to show how ridiculous your man hatred is. Don’t like it when someone picks on your fellow women, do you. And guess what, this woman is obviously all sorts of crazy, though you apparently deem her actions sane (thank god you’re a writer and not a clinical psychologist) and crazy people do crazy things…like fucking a guy and then saying he raped her. You know what kind of person does that? A crazy person.
    And what happened, Ms. Friedman, to innocent before proven guilty? You know, the very principle upon which we hold the tenets of our American judicial system! If you think those who defend Big Ben Roethlisberger are the real assholes, then who the hell are you to convict him? How about a “I have no idea what went on in that room” or something, because you sound like the lawyer for the prosecution!
    I am offended, as a man and as a human being by this article. In fact, it makes me want to rape a woman just to piss you off. Or better yet, to find a woman and let her claim that she was raped—by Joe Paterno—and to get the case laughed out of court so fast that it denigrates the plight of women who actually do get raped everywhere. Unfortunately, when that camp has you as its spokesman—I’m sorry, spokeswoman—we know the charge isn’t being led very far.
    How about this: people aren’t always honest, or truthful. They have ulterior motives. And guess what, women want to have sex with men as much as men want to have sex with women. Sex isn’t about rape or tension, it’s about mutual pleasure. So shove it, Friedman.
    Wow, that felt good. Released a lot of pent up tension. I want to take a woman’s studies class next semester and be a blatant misogynist. Now that would be fun.

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  17. Sugar Sweet says:

    After seeing this video, being a woman I really don’t know where to stand. Since I really don’t know what actually occurred at that hotel in 2008 I can’t really judge anyone until one them is proven guilty. In my opinion I can say this whole situation is very mysterious, because I can’t understand why someone would wait this long to reveal something like getting raped to the police. This incident happened like a year ago and this woman is just filing a case? I think if I would of got raped or been in her situation the first thing I would of done was I would of gone to the police right away. I wouldn’t of care if I would of gotten fired from my job or not, I think my health and my life is way more important than any job I might have. I honestly believe that this woman probably had a one night stand with this men, and since he plays on the Steelers I think she is just looking to get some attention. And with this attention I also think she is taking advantage of what happen that night and is looking to make some money off of it. I really don’t by her story because why would she say she would drop the charges if he apologized and accept his crime? Like I mention before I think this lady is looking to get attention and be recognized or she is looking for some money to make out of this situation. I don’t think if someone got raped they would be okay with just a sorry from the rapists, I know if I was to be in that situation I would want that man stuck in prison forever. I am also certain that I would not drop the charges just because he apologized to me and recognized he had raped me. I think this is in sane, with this comment she let the public know she really didn’t get raped at all and that she is just looking for attention from the media. I glad the man didn’t agree with her, and didn’t accept her condition to drop the charges this comes to show he is no afraid of an investigation taking place. With this he allows the public to see he is not afraid to show his innocents, I would do the same just to show that the girl is lying . In today’s society we see many girls already making up that they got raped, but this should be a crime because it affects the other person even though it is not true. It affects them because people start having a different view on that person. But like I said I can’t really give my opinion until one of them is proven guilty!

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  18. Aesthetic says:

    I don’t appreciate those comments that people made about the victim. It really doesn’t seem like that they have any sincerity or believe her at all. They call her words like bitch and hoe. Damn, these people don’t have any empathy. What if this acclaimed situation happened to one of them? They wouldn’t want any not to show any sympathy or not even closely believe her.
    Frankly, I think the ladies story is kind of shady. I believe that if she was truly raped she should have reported it immediately. I also understand that it is not easy for a rape victim to come out considering the circumstance of shame and disbelief. I feel as though if she wanted this situation to be affective and believable she would have gone to the hospital initially.
    I also don’t like how the person that wrote the article spoke about the football player as though she knew him since they were babies. She made it seem as though he personally came up to her and confessed that he raped the acclaimed victim. In this country the ideal behavior is that we don’t judge people before we know the facts and that they are proven to be guilty. As a reporter I believe that she is suppose to stay unbiased and just report the facts. She deliberately used her power of words to turn his image backwards and to make the public build a negative image of him. I feel as though she is somehow on the similar level with the bloggers that were tainting the acclaimed victims reputation and credibility. The only difference is that she was more professional and did not use profanity in her writing.
    I feel like these are two different instances of examples of sexist reactions. For instance the reporter is on the females side and the bloggers are on the football players side. I personally don’t believe this was the proper was to go about this situation.
    What I do like about the acclaimed victim is that she is not trying to get the money for herself. She wants the money to go to a non-profit organization. And she wants an apology. In my opinion that it very credible on her part. She does not want his money, nor does she want someone to feel sorry for her. She just wants him to take responsibility and admit to what he has done. On the other hand I can imagine that this could be something very personal and she just wanted to mess up his reputation.
    What ever the truth may be I feel as though people should try to be more empathetic. I also feel that this country’s value of innocent until proven guilty should be taken seriously.

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  19. Tiki says:

    I am not aware of the circumstances behind this whole situation, but my critiscims are based on what I know. I feel that this happens to athletes a lot especially. They have a lot of money to dispose of and its just our culture that athletes do these kinds of things. I feel bad that this actually happened to this woman if it really was a rape. Honestly, with all the information given it is very hard to see things opposing big Ben.

    Athletes and famous people in general are known to cheat on their significant others and they will be willing to pay for their silence. A very famous case of where an incident like this happened, but the woman pressed charges. This is when Kobe Bryant was charged with rape when he was in recovery in Colorado. The whole case took about a year and a half and the judge ruled in favor of Kobe. I feel that when rape cases involve famous actors or athletes it is very hard to prove the crime. A lot of things are always going against the women especially when they don’t say something as soon as it happened. When that happens it is very hard to believe them and also it is difficult to think that these icons would be able to do something like that.

    This is a horrible story if it actually happened to the women. From her perspective it would be very tough to go and tell someone. If there were pictures of some bruises or something then more people would believe her. For this to happen to a women that was involved with a “normal” person and not tell others immediately would be perfectly normal. Maybe a few people would think she was lying (I might be one of them) but maybe the majority wouldn’t, especially the police. They would actually work pretty hard to prove the case and find the guy guilty. Due to the fact that the woman didn’t want to press charges and just asked for a donation seemed suspect. This is a very tough ordeal for the woman t o through and its possible that no can really judge her on her actions. I am just very curious of why she did the things she did but trying to make and judgements (not sure how good of a job I am doing).

    In the end, the girl is free to do whatever she wanted and I think it is wrong that so many people cursed her out on youtube. It is sad because this is a rough time for her and so many people are against her. Hopefully things will work out for the innocent party and the guilty party is brought to justice.

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  20. The Man formerly known as Judge Judy says:

    You Tube comments, where intelligent thought ends. The one place that could never be accused of being analytical would be the comments found under most You Tube videos. For fun, go to any semi controversial video or important and then read the comments. Or the moon landing video and see comments of people claiming that it was all staged and Americans are tools for believing that we went to the moon. Moral of the story? Never be shocked what you see on the Internet.
    Oh, and then I almost forgot that this football star may or may not have forced a woman into having sex with him, because of the A-train of mental retardation that are You Tube comments. I, much like everyone else, really has no idea what happened. But because people believe in Ben so much this case that really isn’t my business, or anyone else’s business has now turned into a circus of fans of Ben versus fans of…well…Not raping women? But, you know what? I am sort of biased against the accused in cases like this, because generally it shouldn’t be that hard to prove you aren’t guilty… If you have half a brain, it would seem like a fairly bad idea to have sex with random strangers, at least as a celebrity when there is a precedent of cases where people lie to get money from you. If you don’t want to get shot during hunting season, don’t wear a giant target on your back.
    I think we all remember the Penn State Football players or whatever it was a year or two back who had a stripper or prostitute or something and then allegedly raped her. It turned out false, their lives were ruined. Thats pretty terrible, but I beg the question of why put yourself in a situation like that? Never make it easy for someone to accuse of you a crime. Especially if you’re either rich or famous, because strangers will have no problem of making you into their personal bitch if they can get power over you. You know what sucks? Doing something that isn’t illegal or wrong, but stupid, and then having some bad shit happen over that.
    But, like I said, I don’t really care about this case, and if shes lying then I feel sorry for the poor bastard whose going to carry this around his neck for a long time. If shes telling the truth, well, then I think she equally deserves a chance to prove it. I hope that this will serve as a good lesson for people in restraint of opinion until the facts are brought to light. Instead of immediately jumping on her back for what may be a very legitimate case. I would also hope the supposed fans of this gentleman would call for his honesty. Anyone who I placed such high hopes and expectations on, and then had them go and betray me, should apologize for letting me down. If I was a fan.

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  21. whitegirl2 says:

    I think that this is a very hard topic to take a side on because it is essentially his word against hers. Both of them have different stories that are twisted by the media to be something that is probably different from what really happened. For Ben Roethlisberger his image is taken advantage of in this situation because he is famous. A lot of the time people however, assume that woman who is being accused of rape is lying just because he is famous. Outside sources assume that she obviously just wanted to have sex because who wouldn’t want to have sex with a huge football star like Ben Roethlisberger. The idea that this girl fabricated or completely made up this story is very possible. Its possible that she wanted to become famous, or wanted his money or just the publicity. However, it is also possible that her story is completely true and the crime was actually committed. The sole fact that he is famous makes this situation a tough condition to take a side on. This became such a major issue because of his fame. Its almost impossible to figure out and for justice to be served when we can not collect the full story and that more is at stake besides just the possibility of rape. When a woman is raped by someone of a normal social status that is not famous and it is her word against his, hers is almost always taken as the truth. In the event that she actually was raped it is sad because she can’t really seek justice when the media is against her. In reality the issue should be treated the same as any other rape accusation but with all this extra baggage it became nearly impossible. The media really got involved where it shouldn’t have but that may have been exactly what the girl was looking for. After investigation it was found that Ben Roethlisberger admited that he did have sexual relations with the woman. He also said that it was consensual and that he did not rape her. The woman’s friends even turned against her and said that she was bragging to them about having a date with Ben Roethlisberger and about possibly caring his child. After further investigations texts were found to prove the things that she was saying to her friends. I think that the saddest part about this whole situation is that rape is really not something that people should mess around with. It’s so wrong of her to fabricate this lie when there are people who actually have been raped and this only gives proof to the idea that people have of woman accusing athletes of rapping them. When someone actual is raped by an athlete, the media is going to look back on this and label the actual situation as a “Ben Roethlisberger Situation” and over look it when its something that really needs to be addressed. This is such a difficult situation to take a side on but its also something that really should not be messed around with.

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  22. B says:

    This article is a great one to get to discuss in this class. Personally I am a huge sports fan. I love watching sports and follow sports rigorously. Perfect for this example, I am a huge Kobe Bryant fan, he’s my favorite player. I’ve been a die hard fan since he entered the league in 97 and instantly jumped to all star status the following year. The point of that back story, is that I’ve been a fan since day one so I was one of the guys that was like “WHAT!?” “No Way, NOT KOBE!”. There was no one alive that was going to convince me that my favorite NBA player was guilty of raping some random employee in some hotel in Denver, Colorado. Not squeaky clean Kobe. The only thing anyone could ever say bad about Kobe was that he wanted to run L.A. without Shaq, and as we can see this year, he had a point. Personally, I am glad that the charges were dropped because in my opinion, I thought that the girl in this instance was simply after a pay day, nothing else. I find it extremely hard to believe that Kobe Bryant, a player who gets paid the max, had three now four NBA championships, would rape some random employee who isn’t even a fourth as good looking as his wife. I do believe that non consensual sex does happen, and it tends to circulate around athletes.
    Athletes today are spoiled beyond belief. They have squads of people around them whose sole purpose in life is to accommodate every need and want of that athlete. This includes publicity and reputation. Team owners will go out of their way to keep their stars out of any negative spotlight that could throw a wrench in their team’s program. Athlete’s don’t know what the word “NO” means. They never hear the damn thing. They are overpaid and get to splurge their pay checks on all the luxuries in life, most athletes expenses probably go to covering up the crap they want to sweep under the rug and keep off the radar. Until more athletes are made examples off I’m afraid that this will continue. The girls that are out for the money will make their pay day settling out of court (money that these players have to spend and won’t miss much) and the poor girls that actually are victims of assault go unheard, simply dismissed as gold digging skanks out to mess up a guy’s career for a buck. Teammates have an unspoken but very well known code where they stick up for each, and as dumb as it may sound most guys have the same rule and most teammates will also be quick to dismiss the allegation that one of their own raped a girl, they’ll just say “Na man that girl is just out for pay like all the others, give it two weeks and she get her settlement and be quietly on her way”. This issue is more of a cultural problem with men in general than it is with athletics. If there weren’t so many lying girls out there we would be able to take a true victim of rape at her word but unfortunately there is too much corruption in our lives that even a girl who suffered that kind of trauma, then has to undergo the horrible deed of convincing the world it even happened.

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  23. Bullmoose says:

    I find it humorous to hear Sam’s opinion the Ben Roethlisberger rape accusation, because I have construed a few opinions of my own on this matter. I guess that to be honest I never contemplated the other end of the spectrum that athletes can hide behind their fame to brutalize women. I was always under the impression that women will use any opportunity that they can to take advantage of any type of celebrity. I don’t want to be misunderstood, I am fully aware that celebrities frequently abuse their fame and power to do terrible things to women. That being said, women know that one questionable encounter with a celebrity can lead to a lawsuit and a potentially large payoff. The American judicial system is built in such a manner that allows women to get away with these atrocities, and it can be truly alarming that they get away with some of these antics.
    After reading the blog on the race relations project, I must admit that my opinion is swayed a little bit, When I first heard about the Ben Roethlisberger situation, I was outraged that a women would use a serious accusation like rape to try to extort money from a well-standing public figure. Not only will “Big Ben” have to go through all of the money and time that goes along with all of the legal proceedings, but has reputation will be slightly tarnished forever. There is always going to be the group of people that believe Mr. Roethlisberger did in fact rape this woman, and he will lever fully live it down. Just look back at Kobe Bryant. While his rape accusation case was eventually dropped and his public image is essentially restored, I know whenever I speak about Kobe Bryant I remember his potential rape in the back of my head. Anyways, after I thought about the Roethlisberger situation from a broader perspective, I must admit that I did not ponder Sam’s point. The woman was immediately denounced as a liar and much worse insults, and the public jumped to Roethlisberger’s defense. For all we know, the girl actually could have been beaten and raped and she is being made a mockery of. I suppose that as a society, sometimes we need to take a step back and view the situation a little bit more objectively.
    I think the grand conclusion that I have drawn from this situation is that being a celebrity is awesome. They live the most ideal lifestyle, and due to their public image whenever they actually make a mistake it will most likely be covered up. The only drawback that I could assume would be constantly being in the limelight, but that would not bother me one bit. When I watch shows like entourage and read articles like this, I can’t help but to wish I were blessed with serious acting abilities or singing skills. Unfortunately, I have neither of the two.

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  24. Tastykake says:

    I couldn’t agree more with Sam. Until this case is settled, none of us can be sure of what actually happened. We can’t jump to conclusions until we know all the facts. It may very well be true that this woman is lying. Maybe she just wants publicity. Or maybe she’s after his money. But to call this woman a “bitch” or a “gold digger” is ignorant and disrespectful. What if Roethlisberger did rape her? How do we know who to believe? Being a professional athlete works for and against him. On one hand, he has the trust and support of all his fans. They look up to him as a role model. Of course all the people who have Big Ben on their fantasy teams are going to believe him. And conversely, all the women’s rights activists are going to stick up for her. Professional athletes think they can do whatever they want, right? These conflicting viewpoints only make this situation worse.

    This issue hits close to home for me. When I was a junior in high school, one of my best friends was sexually assaulted. Fortunately, the young man, who was one of our classmates, fled before committing rape. But that was after he grabbed her, pushed her and touched her. It took MONTHS for her to tell her closest friends. She claimed no one would believe her because this guy was popular, smart—and the captain of the swim team. He also had a girlfriend. She told me she tried to erase the memories and move on. As Sam mentioned, IT’S VERY COMMON for victims of sexual assault to deny what happened to them. I can’t even begin to imagine how hard it must be to speak up. I told her she should consider telling the police, but she was obviously afraid to get him angry.

    I’m sure situations like this one happen all the time. That being said, I want to make it clear that I’m NOT accusing Big Ben of rape or sexual assault. All I’m saying is that people need to understand how much these victims suffer. It’s a shame that the media has drawn so much attention to this case. Widespread rumors cause distorted opinions. Both of their lives have been severely damaged in the midst of this controversy. We can only hope that the truth will come out and justice will be served. But balancing the facts of this case will not be an easy task by any means. Apparently this woman did not file a police report after the alleged incident, so it’s her word against his. Therefore, the jury who evaluates this case will probably face a great deal of problems. If a jury might struggle with a verdict, how can an ordinary citizen choose one side or the other so easily? People need to stop and think before opening their mouths.

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  25. Patti Mayonnaise says:

    How can anyone make accusations against this woman OR against the football player? No one even knows what happened and because this guy is famous, it became this whole big controversial thing. I’m not saying that it’s not a controversial topic, but the fact that there was so much media coverage on this story, makes it seem like it is so out of the ordinary. Which it is not. People lie for money all the time, and there is the possibility that this woman may be doing the same thing. Or she could be telling the truth. Again, who knows? It is completely unnecessary to pull those comments and call her a “bitch” just out of the actions that she did. After reading that article I was able to kind of see how often celebrities have cushion or get help because they HAVE to. I don’t think I realize until I actively think about it, how many issues famous people, actors, singers, and athletes actually have to deal with. And then however they react will be viewed as wrong by some people. Yeah I don’t fully agree with what this woman is saying but whatever. This article that was written is pretty much half of my view on this…like I agree with certain things that the author says. It is legitimately beginning to get irritating about how often these things happen. Like, every two seconds there is another sex scandal floating throughout the media. And the assumptions that the public makes off of these scandals only fans the flames. I can sympathize with the woman’s side of the story, but at the same time what if everything she’s saying is a lie? BongHits4SamRichards kind of summed up how I feel about all of this in his first statement: “‘We’re all innocent until proven guilty.’ Unless you’re making millions of dollars for being some hot shot on the local sports team who recently won a championship – then it seems the statement changes…” It’s so true and we see it every day. I’m not saying that the entirety of the celebrity world needs to change, but certain issues need to be looked at more closely I think. The main thing that frustrates me is how a lot of people react to stuff like this. Everything becomes a HUGE deal, and the justice system gets warped by the media. Because fame is involved in these judicial equations, they are much more likely to be better defended, especially in a case like this where there is no hard evidence and the woman told security guards, rather than calling the police. Ultimately I agree that much of this is feminism at its peak, but at the same time, I question how this affects society.

    Oh by the way, Paranormal Activity totally freaked me out.

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  26. Nonanita says:

    Well, no one can really judge if she deserved what happened to her or not. People who commented on that article are superficial. Apparently the comments are all posted by male gender, so that they will definitely blame the woman. Men don’t usually think about women in a good way, especially if she was put-in a sexual assault situation and works in a casino. Also what they don’t know that the woman always weak in such situations because an athlete like this huge guy would never ever be as easy to resist. It’s really natural not to call the cops when you are in this situation because it’s really shocking “if it was”. Her reaction when she told one of the securities about her story doesn’t mean she doesn’t want to be investigated by the police and have her blood tested. In my case if I was put in a situation like this the first thing I will do is call my best friend. I know that would never help me in anything but at least I will find someone who will believe me in order to be beside me. And why always the woman is a gold digger or a whore, why doesn’t the man be a play boy or a pimp, HA?? I know he is an athlete, but that doesn’t exclude him from being a play boy or a pimp.
    Another point of view is that she might deserve what happened to her if she was sexually attracting him. I was wondering why she didn’t mention the case in 2008 why did she pop it up after a year?? That’s ridicules. As he mentioned she works at a casino, surely he might be drunk and raped her but she enjoyed it. And because she would not have the chance to have sex with him any more she made up this story. As a worker she has to have the respect between her and her customers not sexual relations. It’s really hard to tell if she is innocent or not because both of them are guilty. She had the responsibility to serve him and he had the responsibility to respect her as a worker. It’s really tragic to hear such stories because they all blame the women and never put a point to the men.

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  27. Sweet Dee Reynolds says:

    This post got me to thinking about what I would actually do if I were in this situation, and the truth is, I really do not have a clue and not one of us can say we do because we have not been through it. Of course, my first instinct is to say – why didn’t she go to the police? I live on campus and the first thing I am greeted with when I move in is a magnet on my refrigerator that explains what to do if you are the victim of sexual assault. Do not shower, do not brush your teeth, do not even go to the bathroom – go straight to the hospital immediately and tell them what happened. I really hope that I am never in this situation because let’s assume that you are out or drunk and are sexually assaulted. First of all, in your state, you have to remember not to do all of those things. Second of all, you have to somehow get to the hospital. Most importantly, you have to realize what exactly has happened and what the implications are. Not all rape cases are straight-forward; some things blur the lines, some things make you question if maybe you gave the wrong impression or maybe you flirted too much or maybe you sent the wrong signals. It’s so easy, especially at that time, to just be a little distraught or confused and not really realize that you are actually a victim. I can only imagine just wanting to immediately shower or go to the bathroom and change clothes and just think about it the next day when you’re sober. If I were in this situation, would I realize the severity of it and take all of the right steps? I really hope so, but you can’t say unless you’ve been there.
    So maybe this woman is a liar and felt that this would be a great idea. Or maybe this really happened to her. It would not be the first time for either situation. This is why a lot of newspapers have a policy where they refuse to name the victims of rape. First of all, it leaves the victim feeling re-victimized. Second of all, if the alleged victim is lying, the newspaper is serving as a conduit to their message or agenda. If this woman wanted fame, then she got it. But she could have just been scared or doubting herself or fearful for her job or any other number of things, and didn’t immediately know what to do. Maybe she didn’t want to see her face all over TVs and newspapers as the woman who was raped, or the woman who looks like a liar. Overall, these are all hypotheticals. There’s only two people who know what actually happened and hopefully, whoever is innocent here will be proven so.

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  28. FelixTheCat says:

    It is no secret that in modern society, or really any society around the world, that Western culture is being adopted part by part. Likewise, we are trading other cultures, but popular Western culture shows that at the highest level people seem to want the same things. Money, power, respect, women. That being said, women also want the same things, except they tend to want men. In American culture, people generally just assume they can almost ‘trade’ things, like sex for money. That’s why you see ‘ugly’ or ‘fat’ people with people the world and the media sees as ‘beautiful’. It usually doesn’t make sense but money changes people. I’m pretty sure that the young woman who finds herself fighting legally against the American football player from the Pittsburgh Steelers football team is in a bad state. That being said the guy who’s being sued is too.
    I feel like in most situations women put themselves in that zone. She obviously talked to him, probably drank with him, and never saw why that might be a bad idea. He’s a huge man, with too much aggression, and his entire life revolves around winning. He’s obviously no gentleman. If you want a ‘big tough bad boy’ be prepared to deal with ‘big tough bad’ problems or at least big risks. Most girls don’t dress attractively because these days attractive basically means over exposure of skin.
    She knows that in a situation where his reputation is being attacked, his lawyer is probably going to say, “Give her some money and tell her not to take it to court”. Why? Because in the case that she wins he can’t play American football for the team and he loses fans. This in turn means the team loses fans which means they are not selling shirts and stuff that fans buy. Money is her reason for lying.
    I’m sure this is probably not the first time a man like this has been in a situation like this. I just feel like the media sensationalizes things just to get publicity. They’ll say anything to make a big celebrity bad, because that gets more publicity, than making some small time woman seem like the bad person.
    If this were to happen to me I would hire a good legal team, a squadron in fact, to tackle this issue head on and clear my reputation. Because my reputation and my career as the leader of the Pittsburgh Steelers is more important than anything. In conclusion reputation is always worth more than simply giving in. Because giving in is being weak. People should be more responsible for themselves especially that woman. If she was clear minded enough to get his DNA sample then clearly she knew what she was doing.

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  29. PoofyCheekz says:

    Wow, well I think that this topic can go either way. However, I see where the people that wrote these comments are coming from. Yes, she can be a “gold digger” and lied about getting raped by a famous NFL football player and she is just trying to get some money out of this. But, she probably did get raped by him and people would not believe it because of his reputation. I do think that it is hard to believe that she got raped but did not report it. I mean, she was probably scared and didn’t want to tell anyone. I know if I was in that situation, I would not report it to the police because I would be too scared to. If it was reported to the police, it causes a huge media problem. Probably she didn’t want to make it a big deal to the media because she said it will cause her to lose her job. Many females in the world never reported sexual assault because they were too scared to. It would be hard for me to sit in front of the police and tell them the whole story again. I would not want to think of the situation again, yet alone talk about it ever again. I have heard many stories of women that do not want to talk about because it brings back memories of the incident
    On the other hand, she might be lying. She might want the money and one way is to con a multi-millionaire NFL football player. That’s when most of the people that commented are coming from. I’m not a big Steelers fan but, there are A LOT of them around the world. Of course, they will be on his side. They will never believe that he sexually assaulted a woman because he can get anyone they want. He would not get himself into a situation like that. In addition, she was asking for more than he is worth. It raises suspicion that she said she was raped only so she can get the money.
    In conclusion, I do not know which side I would stand on. Since I am a female, I want to believe her story because there is not many victims of sexual assault come out and stand up for themselves. For her to come out and say that it happened I think it was very courageous of her. However, she might be conning him because of who he is and what he does. I don’t blame people for thinking that she is a whore, or bitch because he will always have his fans behind him and support him. Over all, this story can go both ways.

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  30. PUTTPUNJABI says:

    Sexual assault and rape are not topics that should be taken lightly. People who have suffered sexual assault or rape, have undergone massive trauma and therefore suffer from major psychological disorders such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The fact of the matter is when anyone accuses somebody of sexual assault and rape, these charges alone take a huge chunk out of the credibility of a person. The charges against Ben Roethlisberger, the quarter back of the Pittsburgh Steelers, suffered these allegations from a women in the Harrah’s hotel. Ben Roethlisberger will always have those allegations follow him for the rest of his life. Whether they are true or not does not matter. The fact that he was accused is more than enough to cause his reputation as a good person to go down the drain.
    Now concentrating on the comments she made. Whether or not the comments are warranted is out of the question. She is not involved in the situation. She does not have a personal connection with Ben, so for her to completely bad mouth the girl who accused Ben and assume these allegations are false is unacceptable.
    In my opinion, we should let the legal system work itself out of this predicament. If the rape charges are true then I have faith in the legal system will be able to bring justice to the girl. Although there are ways to manipulate the legal system in your favor if you have money, if you have committed a crime it will appear in the court system.
    When you have a situation like this, it is very difficult to discern the truth. The truth of the matter is that only people who know what happened are the girl who worked at Harrah’s and Ben Roethlisberger. Whether they sex was consensual or forced is only known to Ben and the girl. The media and the legal system can only speculate the truth until it comes out of the two of them. When she asked him to donate the money to charity, it seemed somewhat odd. Why would she ask him to donate money to a charity if she is accusing him of rape and sexual assault?
    How does Ben Roethlisberger’s money and fame affect the way people act with him? These problems come with the territory of being a starting National Football League. Being rich and famous makes a huge target for people to make money and gain publicity. The fact is people will do any thing these days to gain publicity and fame. Just like balloon boy, pretending that your child is lost in floating balloon across Colorado. All I can say is if your rich and famous, you have to be very careful about the people you sleep with.

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  31. Spicy Salsa says:

    The comments that were left for that video are the typical comments that would be left to any male celebrity that goes through the same situation. Those people only looked at the article based their opinions on the time that it took the waitress to report the crime, and probably didn’t even read the article. No one knows exactly what happened that hey except for her and Ben Roethlisberger. Many fans of the athlete cannot believe that such claims are true based simply on what they see from Ben on TV. After all, Ben Roethlisberger is a star athlete who just got completed his football season with a win at the Super bowl. What would make him risk all of his achievements? That’s what people find so hard to believe. It doesn’t make any sense for a young super star athlete to throw his career away by making such a stupid mistake. In many people’s mind, Ben Roethlisberger could have any woman he would like; it comes as part of his celebrity status. It just doesn’t seem that Ben would be the type of person that would take such a risk. The fans of the athlete think the same way and although their opinions express some hate towards a person that they don’t even know, one could argue that some of their opinions show at the very least a decent argument. For example, one of the comments that were left talks about the time that it took the victim to report the crime. Why would someone that got raped not report the crime immediately to the police? The comment states that the girl is afraid of being charged with a false accusation. A crime such as this cannot be covered up as simple as the woman made it seem, if it truly happened. What’s even worse is that she would settle for an apology instead of going through with the law suit. This is what makes her story so hard to believe and the reason for which those people left such comments. Any person that would rather receive an apology for such a crime has to be questioned in my opinion. Accusing somebody of rape is a serious offence that cannot be settled with a simple apology. This woman’s story has to be thought to be a fake claim. The fact that it supposedly happened with such a celebrity makes the claim sound more absurd. If the woman really did get raped by Ben Roethlisberger she should have reported it as soon as it happened. She would have been able to provide proof of the assault, and would have most likely not asked for an apology. When she decided to wait, she basically confirmed that it didn’t happen.

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  32. Snow Bunny says:

    This is a very contentious topic and I cannot choose one side because I understand both view points. First I find it very degrading to women how we are often portrayed as “gold-diggers, whores, sluts, etc.” whenever accusing someone of sexual assault. For the fact that this happens very often with athletes and other Hollywood stars suggest that they believe they are above the law and can get away with anything which is wrong. The author of this article makes a strong argument and sucked individuals into believing what she says is true based on the comments they posted under the blog. Agreeing with Sam how dare these people cast stones at the women when they are judging her based on the news and media reports they have no idea what actually happen. The only two individuals who know are the athlete and the young woman. Society is just trying to defend his reputation instead of living by the laws of the land which state equality and justice for all. I feel that the reaction to her claims are disrespectful by calling her out of her name and assuming that this athlete is innocent which in many cases most of them are not. I find it interesting that the video says, he said he did nothing wrong. I want to know what he believes is the difference between wrong and right before I myself cast any stones at him.
    On the other hand I feel that if raped one should immediately go to authorities so that there is substantial evidence to build a case against the perpetrator and have him locked away and the key thrown away. By waiting all this time she made it hard to believe and this is why society is reacting in such frenzy. I do not understand why she felt safe to tell security but not police the people who can really help. Who cares about losing your job and if she were to be fired for exploiting this athlete she could have then sued and probably owned her job. To a certain extent I understand where some individuals think she is lying because she waited a year to admit she was assaulted, but what about women all over the world who are molested as children and do not share this information until they are teenagers or young adults or in adulthood. Why is it that we do not react t he same to these individuals? I forgot it is because they are raped by what we consider to be “normal people.” Well here is a newsflash for these idiots in America who worship famous individuals and treat them as if they are above everyone else: ATHELETES, ACTORS, ACTRESSES, DOCTORS, LAWYERS, FIREMEN, EXECUTIVES, and DIRECTORS ETC. ARE ALL NORMAL PEOPLE. Before they became wealthy and received new “labels” they were just like me; a regular plain Jane individual.
    Consequently, I just want to know when will society open their eyes and see that we are all human and allowed to make mistakes and when mistakes are made we all are suppose to face the same consequences despite the amount of money in our bank accounts. I guess people will always side with their heroes and idols despite the fact they may actually be guilty of the charges held against them and this is sad to me. Ultimately I am not taking either side just looking at the allegations from both perspectives and wishing that others would use rational thought instead of being irrational and allowing one more famous person not be treated as a regular individual.

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  33. mystical carpet says:

    Unfortunately, there are cases where stupid ladies scream rape just so that they can get some money from the superstar athlete they just slept with it. Whether this is one of the these cases, I don’t know. However, if Big ben really did rape this girl why did she drop the charges? You can prove rape by taking DNA samples. It’s a solid win for the girl. If Big Ben committed the crime he should pay the price. It doesn’t matter if he won the superbowl or is a multimillionaire— he committed a crime and has to pay his debts to society. I think the reason she dropped the cases was because she made all this up just to get some publicity and maybe get some money out of this situation. Yes, I realize I am playing into the description the author of the article was talking about, but I can’t get around the fact that the lady dropped the charges. I mean, she had a solid rape case. It could have been proven by DNA testing. Why on Earth would anybody drop charges on a case they basically already won? It could be that they settled out of court for a large sum of money or that she WASN’T RAPED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
    Now here’s some sympathy for the victim. Big Ben is an asshole. I have not personally met him by just about all my friends have. He refuses to sign autographs and acknowledge his fans. If that doesn’t scream ASSHOLE then I don’t know what does. Anyways, these assholes are very sly, cunning, and are always on the lookout for themselves. His personality could have played a role in the rape case. What I mean by this is that he could have raped her and just paid her off with hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars. Pretty expensive prostitute if you ask me. Hope Ben had an amazing night! This type of behavior would definitely suit Ben R. Most of us don’t want to believe that this could occur because most of us have consciences that tell us, “You should rape a girl and then pay her shit ton of money so she shuts up because that inhumane and morally wrong.” This is considering that we all have morals. If Big Ben did actually rape this lady—he has no dignity; if he raped her then paid her off—he has no morals.

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  34. truth says:

    Oh this topic, so controversial and pertinent to what is going on. Sports stars committing crimes and other atrocities. Sports stars are viewed in a totally different light then many other people and can’t lead a normal life. Not only that but between each league there is a different code of conduct policy which makes it hard to treat all the athletes the same. Their egos grow and grow as they get more successful and they are used to getting whatever they want. Still, I also would believe that there are women out there desperate and greedy enough to try and set up a man with money. I think both situations are a terrible representation of the way women in America view wealthy men and the way men in America view some women. People make it so difficult for sports stars to live normal lives and also make it very hard for a woman to come out with something that could very well be the truth. I semi understand why Big Ben’s accuser may not have ordered a police investigation. With that much pressure after everything on top of what may have happened it’s understandable. But like other people have said in comments if you really wanted jealous you would have come out and not circumvented other options. She didn’t want to get fired from the casino? Seems like a flimsy excuse. I can see it both ways because I do believe sports stars have too much free will to do what they want and they definitely use it to their advantage. But I also fully believe there are thousands of women out there that are just looking for that chance to try to pull something like this on anyone with a hint of money and take advantage of them. I also believe that sports stars know this so they use it to their advantage to “get some” so it’s kind of a repeating cycle that who knows if it ever really could be stopped. With athletes on such a different level how are we supposed to truly be unbiased about it and just treat it like a normal case. I have a friend who was accused of rape after a casual encounter and the girl actually did get in trouble. So maybe it isn’t just about the money issue its just people in general and the whole taboo topic of sex. It’s a big deal and some people take it lightly when they are in the act but then regret it and take drastic measures to rationalize their decision. With our crazy world today you really have no idea who’s telling the truth and I believe it just gets even murkier when you add in popularity and money into the equation.

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  35. steph t says:

    What I find so interesting about this topic is that, and this sounds so terrible, but I am a woman and the first thing that I thought was that this woman was lying about being raped. The fact of the matter is that nobody knows what actually went down in the hotel room or if anything went down at all and it is amazing to me that we jumped to so many conclusions about people. We assume this woman is a gold-digger, or someone who just wants publicity, her fifteen minutes of fame. But the truth is, what if we are all wrong and she really was raped, she really was scared that she would get fired or the hotel wouldn’t believe her. Interestingly enough, if I was a police officer and got a call that a celebrity of some sort raped someone, I would probably be one of those people who are immediately skeptical of the situation anyway. It truly is terrible. As children, my sister and I were both brought up to never lie, so why is it the second we both hear of a rape situation by a celebrity, we automatically doubt it happened. If someone had told us a black person raped a white woman, or a white person raped a black woman or any other race/culture/ethnicity we would believe it. Why is it that a celebrity changes that? It is a very scary thing to have people judge you in a situation like this. However, if the case is that this story is made up- which as of now, nobody knows, its amazing what people will do for money these days. If not true, this man’s career and life could potentially be ruined, all because someone wanted the spotlight as well. On the other hand, its disgusting if not true, that people will do whatever it takes to defend the famous sports star or celebrity just because their famous. Just because someone is famous, does NOT mean they can’t commit crimes, in fact it is every day that a celebrity like any other person, is on the news for a crime they commit- a beating, a DUI, things of that nature. It is just that celebrities are publicized while people like us, aren’t. I went to a speaker in the HUB fairly recently who talked about her daughter who committed suicide. The daughter had been a happy child who loved her freshman year of college but was recently depressed because she had broken up with her boyfriend. When her mom (the speaker) found her dead on her living room couch with a suicide note, she couldn’t fathom why her daughter would ever do that to herself. It turns out, that the daughter was raped by a friend the summer before, and when she had told her boyfriend-he broke up with her. The girl had committed suicide because she was ashamed of what happened and her boyfriend wasn’t there for her, and nobody knew about it because she was afraid to tell anyone. Rape is not something to joke about, which is why it should never be ignored or blown off or assumed to be a lie. People should think clearly about what they accuse others of before they judge.

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  36. No Name says:

    Living on a college campus in our day today, rape is not uncommon. The part that is uncommon is the actual reporting of the harassment. Rape is a highly kept secret and not often told on by its victims. There are many reasons for this. Being rape can cause guilt of the victim. Guilt could be for feeing so helpless, even if it was unavoidable. Date rape is also a huge unreported crime in the United States, especially on college campuses. Date rape includes raping someone that you are aquatinted with or know personally. This football player being accused of rape is not unrealistic. He may have, or may not have raped the woman, but why is she allowing him to get off easier than someone who is not famous. Raping a woman no matter if you are famous or not, rape is unacceptable. It will be put on a permanent record, which could affect anyone’s reputation. The Steelers quarterback’s reputation may have been ruined, but what does that matter? If he committed the crime shouldn’t he be charged with the consequences? If it was just any normal male, white, black or of any race, he would be going on trial and being punished for his actions. The woman in this example is not filing a suit for the correct reasons. She does not want to receive damages from the actual rape situation, but the celebrity she can encounter on the way. Having the football player admit what he has done, and then lower the repercussions is just wrong. If he realizes and admits what he did wrong, he should have to pay the fines. Rape is just not something that one can get away with if it is reported. Once it is reported, it needs to be solved and fixed to prevent future harmful situations. Being raped has different effects on different people. I have heard a story about a girl being raped. Her name was Shannon. Today, it is called Shannon’s Story. She was never the same, it doesn’t just affect you for that quick time it happens. It lingers, forever. This girl was raped, which ended up ruining her long-term relationship with her boyfriend. Due to the break up, she ended up committing suicide. This girl never reported the crime. She had just written it in her journal, but the male is not identified, so no charges can be made. This male is on the loose. He is out there to cause injury to future girls, just like the football player if he gets let off easy of charges. A crime is a crime. The girl was apparently affected by what had happened at the hotel, so she had to report it that night. By taking back the repercussions and minimizing the punishments, she is causing more harm to our society. He could be free to roam around and continue to do what he thinks is ok, because most woman might not report it, just like the majority of our population. This woman is setting back the fight against rape. Rape not only affects woman, who report it. It affects everyone whom is affected and even those who are not. Shannon’s story is a perfect example of how rapes lead to a series of events, which ended in a horrific accident. It all could have been prevented if she reported the crime and the male had been punished for his actions. The quarterback needs to be punished correctly in order to help protect our future and fight against both rape and date rape.

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  37. Anonymous says:

    This particular incident raises so many issues. First because it is involving a popular NFL athlete and because she waited to report the incident, which I feel like this happens a lot with assault cases. As Sam mentioned, maybe she did just hold off on reporting it because she was intimidated by his fame, or maybe she tried to convince herself it was not that big of deal. I think that unless you have been in the shoes of someone who was assaulted, whether it was something minor or rape, I do not think you can judge the reactions and repercussions it can have on the victim. I think, had she really been raped, that it is very likely that she thought that she was powerless to such a celebrity. As far as the criticisms go on her behalf, most of the things people say very well could be true. Maybe she did agree to it, and then figured she could get something out of it. There are a lot of conniving people in the world. However, I think it is harsh to not even give her the benefit of the doubt that maybe this did happen and she was just embarrassed or ashamed to come out about it. Now look at the criticism she faces. Whether he did rape her or not, you have multiple people for Roethlisberger. Maybe they are his fans or maybe they are chauvinist men or maybe they are men and women who honestly think this woman is guilty of lying. Either way, people form very powerful opinions when they don’t know enough about an issue. The article by Jaclyn Friedman is completely degrading to this woman. She categorizes her with any old girl looking to get famous for hooking up with an athlete, when she has no idea what this girl’s real story is, or what really happened. When it comes to celebrities, there is just this stigma of the girls they are associated with. Unfortunately, like this particular woman, everyone will automatically be able to form their opinions about her because of this article. I guess the overriding issue is the fact that women are almost always the victim. Perhaps it is easy for a woman to claim that she was assaulted because males are seen as the dominant sex, the ones who call all the shots, the ones who make all the moves. I mean, I’ve never heard of a man claiming he was raped. Society is filled with these similar stigmas; about men, about women, about athletes, celebrities, white people, people of color, poor people… With all these understood beliefs we have about various subcultures, it will be hard to ever live in a peaceful world.

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  38. Money B says:

    This is a situation which might cause actual rape victims to hesitate to go to the authorities. After considering a case like this they may feel that their case may not be looked at seriously; when in all reality that is not true. The fact that the female did not go to the authorities immediately after she claimed that she was sexually abused made her story seem skeptical. However, I can imagine how hard it may be to report a rape. Some people never gain the courage to admit that they have been sexually abused. They just go on with their lives like nothing ever happened. I can only imagine how many women who have been sexually abused by a man, who holds power; whom probably never reported their abuse.
    Many women are not brave enough to report their sexual abuse because many times the media seems to destroy their character. The media will sometimes dig deep into the victims past in order to bring out their skeletons. At the same time the world seems to forget about the victim all together by accusing them of being a whore, slut, gold digger and ect. It is sad but true that money rules the world. Regardless if Big Ben really sexually assaulted the women or not, the majority of the people who aware of the case are going to side with him. The main reason for that is because of women wrongfully accusing men about sexual assault.
    In the case of the woman who claimed to be sexually assaulted by Big Ben, her story simply does not hold any weight. It is simply because she did not immediately report to the authorities. She is also requesting a monetary exchange for her pain and suffering. I can only speak for myself but had I been sexually assaulted I would not care about money what so ever! I would just simply want my attacker imprisoned. The fact that the woman is filing a civil suit instead of a criminal suit makes eye brows raised. She not only reported her sexual abuse late but at the same time she is asking for a large settlement. No one really knows if she was really sexually abused or not but her situation would make one wonder.
    At the end of the day I believe that any sexual assault case should be fully examined regardless if it involves someone famous or an average person. A person should not just get a slap on the wrist just because of their wealth or popularity. At the same I believe those same famous should not be targeted by some females who are only after their wealth. Two wrongs will never make a right!

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  39. ive kissed i guy from almost ever different race says:

    This is what upsets me, that when it comes to sports and men who have obliviously done wrong the woman who is the victim is made out to be a slut. When it comes to these types of cases never do the fans or team member’s think of the woman actually being the one who was hurt. What baffles me is how they only consider the man and how she is trying to ruin his career and cash out. They relate him to being the victim when he was not the one how was raped. Just because we may have had a few bad apples who may have tried to use their incident as a way gain funds or fame doesn’t mean the most of these women scorned by these famous men are trying to do so. Before people take into account the affects of rape and what it does to a person mentally, physically, and emotionally they quickly support the male and end up increasing the depressed state and guilty mindset of the victim. When these people are so quick to call out the incident as being the woman’s fault or it was consensual, or fun they manipulate the victim into thinking what has been done them didn’t really happen or to not make people hate them they should drop the charges. Truth needs to be told and it is when I say that this shit ain’t right. People are always trying to defend these players like they are angels and can never do any wrong. To those people I say get real and stop just thinking about the game and who might win or lose if your main player isn’t in the game. Because men will be a men and ain’t nobody an angel. Nor should anyone get special privileges when it comes to rape or sexual assault due to the fact that they are an athlete. These men know right from wrong and that no means no, no matter when said … even if you got the head in because we all have the right to change are minds or feel uncomfortable at a certain moment, its human. These men as well as the public need to be aware that rape is a very sensitive matter and that rape as well as sexual assault can be applied to many different situations. A lot of people make these situations more difficult than they are because the male is an athlete, but we need to realize that he is a regular Joe capable of doing rape or being raped. At the end of the day rape is rape. Rape is a crime. A girl being promiscuous is not a crime and I feel like with society males are always favored over females especially when it comes to athletes because they are put on petal stoles. So to end the stigma against women in rape cases with athletes society needs to reinforce the idea that rape is a crime no matter who you are and what you do.

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  40. golaub-williams says:

    Seeing articles like this definitely does not make me feel safe in any way shape or form, as a female. Being that I am slim and of a very slender stature (and being that I don’t even get half the suggested hours of rest per week that I need to get), I can pretty accurately say that I would be almost completely defenseless against a football player, unless I had a weapon. I might reach for just about anything within my immediate area, be it my purse, my jacket (they have zippers and buttons!), nail file… just about anything if I’m trying to defend myself from potential harm. I mean, that’s all kind of second nature to me considering I lived in Brooklyn until I was 14.
    Nevertheless, I know that that is a lot easier than it sounds, and that, were I in such a position- G-d forbid- I might not be able to defend myself with the confidence and the fervor that I have now. Things like that often disappear (not for everyone apparently) in a moment of panic. I have a close friend who was molested while at this university by someone she believed to be a good friend of hers, someone she trusted. I know that these situations are often much more mentally-shattering than many people would think.
    And also, being that she is my close friend, I get the “pleasure” of hearing all the things that they say about her: she deserved it, she wanted it, it was consensual, she made it up to make us look bad, among other things. Knowing her as a person, I know that she isn’t lying to me about what happened. I have a significant amount of trust in her, and it isn’t for no reason. The few times she speaks about what happened, you can tell from her eyes that it haunts her, and I find a great deal of bravery in the way that she still goes about her life and tries not to let it take her over, though she is still going to court to get everything settled.
    Knowing my friend, and then reading the comments that were posted under the video really struck me. This could possibly be because of the fact that I’m such good friends with her… that I have a biased view on this topic. It reminds me very much of what happened in a way, so I can empathize with the alleged victim. This is not to say that I completely believe the woman. I can see how parts of her story can be considered suspicious, but in situations like this, can it really just be black and white? There are a lot of gray, blurry areas that stop us from doing things that we should, stop us from saying something when we should. There are a lot of other factors that might have motivated her telling hotel security, rather than the police. Maybe she felt safer as a person telling hotel security, being that she works in the same workplace as them. Maybe she was too ashamed to alert the police. You might ask why she would be ashamed of something like this. I don’t know- but I do know that when these things happen, some people feel an overwhelming amount of shame, as if they’d somehow deserved it or done something to provoke it, and this is only elevated by the cruelty of people that make biting judgments and accusations, while only knowing a smidgen of what happened, if even that. How can you possibly pass judgment like that on a person that you do not know, on a situation that you were not involved in and you do not even know a majority of the story? Why is she immediately seen as guilty, and him as innocent?
    Honestly, this makes me feel so unsafe as a woman. Yes, there are women that lie about experiences like that for money… but let us not forget that men lie as well. And men in the entertainment business are very much known for their objectification of women. Why is it okay for them- because they’re celebrities? Because they score a few touchdowns or won a few awards? When has a woman’s life become so worthless merely because of the fact that she is not a celebrity and the accused is? It makes me feel as though if something like this were to ever happen to me, I could tell no one because everyone would assume that I was just lying or that it was consensual. And what kind of world is it when I don’t even feel safe to speak up about the injustices I have to face?
    I’m not saying that she didn’t lie. I’m definitely not saying that she did. I’m saying that before you make ignorant judgments, think about someone you love in your family, your relationships. And then ask yourself if you have any right to talk, given you know only what the news, casino, etc wants to tell you, just like all of the public.

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  41. Mr. Pibb & Red Vines = Crazy Delicious says:

    It’s hard for me to take a stance on this because although the apologists do not need to be as rude, time and time again it is true that you find a gold-digger simply looking for the easiest way to thousands of dollars. In my opinion, the fact that the girl didn’t file a police report is what is really going to hurt her case. The evidence that could have been retrieved if she did so would really allow her a chance to win. Now-a-days, you really need to go to all lengths to have evidence to support your claim. I understand that rape is a hard thing to deal with, but if you want justice, you really need to have everything you can to prove your assault, especially when dealing with a famous athlete. However, when I come to think about it, even if she did file the police report, she most likely would still be doubted and in the end it would probably be ruled consensual. With famous athletes or celebrities, it’s hard to bring their wrongdoings, such as rape, to justice because the famous question always pops up: “They could get anyone they wanted to, why would they ever rape someone?” While this may very well be true, it also gives them the leeway that they need to get away with serious crimes. It’s hard to ever know what truly happened, and when it’s his word against hers (or vice versa), the more famous voice is always heard.
    I personally feel bad for victims and athletes. Victims obviously more, especially when their assault actually happened and nobody will believe them. But I also feel bad for athletes because sometimes they are the innocent party that is not believed either. I think that it depends who the person is to determine who does and does not believe the victim. Honestly, in this situation I am kind of torn between the two sides, but say instead of Ben Roethlisberger it was Chase Utley, it is far more likely that I would believe the side of Chase. However, at the time of the case involving Kobe Bryant, I leaned a lot more towards the victim’s side because I have a dislike for Kobe. As terrible as it is, the person who wrote the article makes a valid point. It is so easy to defend one of your favorite celebrities without knowing the story. The only thing is, although I might personally think in some cases the famous person is innocent, I still would not write the rude things that some of the bloggers do because I still think that is outrageously rude. The whole situation with famous people vs. citizens is extremely blurry when it comes to truly serving justice. Honestly depending which way you look at it, it could be the victim innocent of lying until proven guilty or the famous athlete innocent of the alleged crime until proven guilty. I just hope that the people in authority do their job to find all evidence that is possible, despite who is being accused of the crime.

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  42. One Love-Steeler Swag says:

    In response to Sam’s blog entitled “Men of the World Unite…before it’s too late” I sided with the majority. I know it was discussed that you are innocent before proven guilty, and we do not have all the statistics in the case or exactly know what happened, but based on the facts we do know I made my own conclusion. I feel this was absolute fraud against Ben Roethlisberger, and I and not only saying this because I happen to be a die-hard Pittsburgh Steeler fan. The fact of the matter is I truly believe this woman, who was a middle class citizen had a sexual encounter with a multi-million dollar professional football player and after the encounter she had the idea that she could make a large sum of money off of this situation. She may have even planned this out when she met Ben.
    You cannot consent to sex one day and decide a few weeks or days later than the experience was not enjoyable and non consensual and consider it rape. Men are always targeted as aggressors in rape, and this is often supported by crime statistics, but it would be deemed sexist of we say this is because men are stronger than women. Men rarely or never are highlighted as this woman is in a case like this. Men could easily do the same thing, have sex with a rich woman and then claim rape, I am not certain but I cannot think of a case in which this happened. I do however have another similar case in mind. In 2001 Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant was accused of rape in Colorado, and was found innocent. Is this just a case of same situation, different people? I think so. The woman who charged Roethlisberger originally wanted $100,000 for herself, but now that the case is getting a bit shady, she is changing her tune and wants the money donated to a women’s charity. This is just a way of limiting her loses. She originally was in it for the money in my eyes, and now that she doesn’t think she can get that she is attempting to save her reputation and criminal record.
    Celebrities are targeted in a number of ways due to their fame and fortune. Ben, in my eyes, was just another victim. Look at former teammate of Roethlisberger, Plexico Burress’ gun charges this past September. He shot himself in a club with an unregistered gun on accident. He didn’t intend to shoot anyone, the gun went off on himself, isn’t that punishment enough? His celebrity statuses forced the judge into being extremely tough on his sentencing and give him five years in prison. This woman targeted Ben because he was celebrity, this would have never happened if it was a random working class man, she might not have even slept with a non-celebrity. I know I do not know all the facts of this case, but I have made my conclusion after evaluating all the statistics given and that’s my stance and I do not intend to chance it until more information comes out.

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  43. 3fifi3 says:

    This article doesn’t show in any way that the lady could be telling the truth. It kind of weird that the lady took about a year to tell her story if it true why did she wait so long. She should not have waited that long she should have stood up and spoke for her self. I think that may be lying because why would you take so long, in order to find out if you where raped is that test that they do at the police station. Either way I think there should be a way to examine the lady in order to find if she was really raped by the quarter back of the Steelers team. And if it does come out to be that she wasn’t raped she should definitely be spending time in prison. It not nice to make accusations of other especially if that person is someone that younger kids look up to but if for some reason it true then he must serve the consequences. Then I think about people that like the sport man and from my perspective they always try to cover up there sport heroes so that they don’t seem them like a bad person even if they damage someone life or even destroy a home because they were drunk driving. They always think that their sport man are a bunch of angels and the people they hurt the make them seem like there the worst thing in life. Like for example this woman the media and the people that are don’t want to open there eyes and find out that know one is perfected are saying that this woman is a slut a whore and a bitch. First of all if she is the victim why would any one say that about someone you don’t know anything of that person. I think random people shouldn’t talk about others this nasty way, it unnecessary because they don’t have a clue if it true. At the same time I understand if it true, why she didn’t want anyone to know. People were going to call her a liar and start saying nasty words to her. plus everyone would start judging her and claiming that they know her and people calling her a liar and start saying nasty words to her was too much for to have in her life may be in that moment. Since the economy has decrease everyone has decided to sue everyone for everything because they need money. Almost everyone in the united state is hungry for money so they find many different ways, even the dirtiest ways in the world if necessary. I think that everyone should make their own money in their own way but not in a dirty way but in a way that whatever they have is better then nothing.

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  44. reds. says:

    First and foremost, I think some of the prior responses to this article are ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. And I love the fact that most are from guys who want to limit this one instance in its entirety. This is more than a sports figure being accused of committing sexual assault, this also includes a woman as well. Most people who responded to this article probably have had the extremely good fortune of NOT being sexually assaulted. I, on the other hand, have not. And it seriously pisses me the hell off that people just assumes she falsely accused him because she wants money, or because she wants fame or any of that stuff. What happened to me was traumatic, and so help me God, if people responded to MY own story they responded to hers, I could have been suicidal. Whether or not she fabricated the story, no one will ever know. If it happened, and she was going to go public, she was paid off. If it did happen, they would pay her to keep her mouth shut. If she did falsely accuse, shame on her, but most woman who come forth with stories like this in everyday life are not lying. Most women who are violated like I was wouldn’t DREAM of making up such a terrifying story – why in the HELL would I make something like that up? Why in God’s name would I ever want to PRETEND that happened? It’s like the boy who cried wolf, ‘cept it’s the girl who cried rape. How guilty would you feel if you just assumed she, or just some other girl, lied but instead was actually forced into unwanted and non-consensual sexual practices? I don’t think there’s any way in hell people can look at a woman/girl and say they’re lying about something like this without giving it a second thought. Would the same people who called her those names say the same stuff to one of those kids who claimed MJ touched them? I HIGHLY doubt it. It’s all relevant. People said these things immediately because 1) she was a woman and 2) he was an athlete. No one called those kids liars and expletives because 1) they were kids and 2) people were less quick to defend MJ and more quick to judge him, go figure? I don’t know. I just can’t imagine telling a woman she’s all those things POST being molested (or supposedly molested). I’d never felt more down and depressed than after that happened, and if people were to treat me that way, say those things, tell me I was lying, I don’t think I could handle it. Oh, and that “innocent til proven guilty” shit? Who in God’s name still thinks OJ is innocent?

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  45. The Beer Baron says:

    When news of this story first appeared on ESPN and after I had learned that the incident had happened over a year ago and the woman had already spoken to the police several weeks before the story aired, I immediately wondered why it wasn’t all over news stations as previous rape cases have normally been exposed to. Following reports that ESPN had attempted to prevent the case to go public, I knew that something was definitely fishy. In previous rape trials involving celebrities, the specific story was aired immediately after police became involved, and this is common with most criminal offenses. Think about Michael Jackson’s sexual abuse case and the Kobe Bryant rape trial. Their faces were plastered all over the nightly news even before the full account of the circumstances was compiled. In a story closer to home, consider Penn State football’s troubled running back Austin Scott, who was accused of having unwanted sex with a female student when she went back to his apartment after a night of drinking. What caused the disparity? Ill give you a few possible reasons that I believe could have been factors. For one thing, Bryant, Jackson, and Austin Scott all had questionable public images throughout their career. Austin Scott had already been kicked off the team only days before the assault in question had been publicized for breaking an undisclosed team rule. It was well known that Jackson had a history of inappropriate contact with young boys. But Rothlisberger was Pittsburgh’s golden boy. He had the image as an upstanding, hard-working, blue-collar athlete who could do no wrong in the eyes of his fans. When he was accused of raping a woman in a hotel after attending a charity golf tournament, this news sent shockwaves through the entire sports nation. But this certainly doesn’t give the media the right to prevent the story from going public just because they want to protect an individual’s image. Bias in the media and in public judgment is the issue at hand. The other elephant in the room is more racially charged. Kobe Bryant is black, and the image of a depraved, sexually starved black man preying on the innocent white girl surely came to mind when the case went public. But Rothlisberger is white, and he gets the benefit of the doubt when in both cases the circumstances of the crime and the victim’s account were essentially identical. I have to raise a red flag here.
    Another method to look at this is by analyzing the preferential treatment celebrities are somehow entitled to in all varieties of crimes. Roman Polanski would still be rotting away in a prison for sexually assaulting a teenage girl thirty years ago if he didn’t happen to be an Oscar winning director. And people actually back this guy up for being extradited back to the United State for trial. Didn’t this man admittedly rape a minor and then try to cheapen the crime and the victim by offering to pay her to not press charges? America’s obsession over celebrities is sickening at times. Famous individuals shouldn’t have a get-out-of-jail-free card in their back pockets whenever they are charged with a crime. In contrast, celebrities should understand they are idolized by countless young people and should actually be held more accountable to their blunders. In a perfect world, it is more accurate to say that a person is a liable to the same set of laws no matter what race or status they hold.

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  46. Pussy's Unite says:

    Apparently every single woman that walks the earth would be lucky to sleep with a professional athlete. So much so that if I were raped by one, I must be a gold digger or a whore who was leading him on. This is an outrage to me, not every single woman is turned on by a fancy uniform and muscles. I think the public, and all their excuses for athletes, is really getting to all their heads. They think in their heads, oh I must be so amazing, all these girls want me; so wrapped in their own little world that they convince themselves that no mean yes. I’m not saying that every girl is innocent, I know that in some cases the sex is consensual, and that some girls do throw themselves at athletes. I’ve seen so many girls throw themselves at regular Joe’s when they were drunk. So I can only imagine what some people would do, especially when under the influence of alcohol. But the point I am trying to make is that these women, just because they don’t want to report their assault to the police, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. There are women who get raped and will never tell anyone, because they are too afraid that the rapist will find them. If you accuse a famous person, who knows what kind of badgering she would get. I mean look at the comments on youtube, she is being called a whore and a gold digger, and he, well he is getting applauded basically; one user said he did nothing wrong but be a popular athlete. Really though, I don’t mean to sound like a feminist, but most of these comments sound like they were from men. Honestly most of them point out that he is a great athlete, and she is a whore for sleeping with him, and then a bitch because she is making such a terrible accusation against him. It’s sickening that so many people can get away with such a heinous crime. Raping a woman is terrible, you could psychologically harm them for the rest of their lives. They may never be able to open up to man, or maybe the person who raped them had blonde hair, they may be afraid of blonde men in general. They also may get the feeling that their rapist is constantly following them, and live their life in constant fear. A lot of girls at one point in their life have probably thought about being raped, and I think that the fact that most men can’t even begin to imagine what it would feel like. Some men just stick their junk wherever they want and don’t ever have to worry about the consequences.

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  47. ScootsMagoots says:

    This topic seems to be stirring up a little controversy and deservingly so. Sex scandals in America seem to be a recurring theme in the news and people need to start noticing it. You will be hard pressed to find a headline that says, “Famous woman athlete sexually assaults male hotel worker,” it’s always, “Famous male athlete sexually assaults woman.” It seems that it’s always that headline and it’s about time people start noticing that discrimination is not all about race, it is also about gender equality and how women seem to be second tier to men. Women in America have always been down-graded to lesser than a male. They didn’t have the ability to vote until the 1920’s and a lot of things in America’s past put women second behind men. Though times are changing for females, some things are still staying the same. In some places in the United States, women are demeaned to the point where they cannot get jobs and must stay home to provide for their families. In other parts, women are totally controlled by their male companions to the point where they cannot leave their own home or even talk to their friends or family. You’d think with all this change in America going on that women would have a bigger place in it, but in some cases, they do not, which is not right.
    In the case of Ben Roethlisberger, it seems as if that this is another time in which an athlete is trying to get away with doing something that is totally and morally wrong. Being an avid sports fan (but not of the Pittsburgh Steelers), I kind of always side with the sports figure. My first thought process is, “This woman is just trying to get money.” I know it’s wrong to think that way and I know I don’t know all of the facts, but it’s just the way I first think. After reading this article my thought process might change a little. These athletes are paid literally boat-loads of money to play a sport and be positive figures in society. When they screw up like this, of course people are going to try and cover it up and act as if nothing really bad happened. That is wrong. People need to be held responsible for their unlawful actions, and in the case of Ben Roethlisberger, he should be put into the courts because if he were a regular person, he would be in jail by now. Since no one knows the real truth behind what happened, I’m sure whoever is truthful enough in court will win the decision they need.
    For a woman, being raped may be the worst thing to happen in her life. Rape is no joke and it could have many psychological effects down the road that could really mess up a woman mentally. This just goes to show that gender equality is something that needs to be addressed more in this country. Most men find themselves to be better than women based on the fact that they are just males, but in many cases that is not the truth. Some men think they can absolutely control women and make them do whatever they want, no matter what it is, and that is not right. People need to start changing their views and see females as equal counterparts. In any case, I really don’t know where I stand in this Ben Roethlisberger situation. Ben Roethlisberger may be right or the woman who alleges she got raped might by right. Until the facts come out, I’m just going to sit on the fence and wait for final say on this really messed up situation.

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  48. Anonymous says:

    This same type of incident has happened in the past to professional athletes, such as Kobe Bryant. If the women who are filing these suits honestly feel that they were raped then they should have went straight to the police so the issue could have been handled in the legal system. However, since these women took a round-about way of confronting the issue, she is receiving scrutiny from several people. Sure, she could just want a money settlement since Big Ben is worth millions of dollars, but then again she could be telling the truth. This article really makes one think about this controversial situation in American society. In my opinion, rape is one of the hardest crimes to solve. Women who are raped are usually so traumatized by what had just happened to them that they do not report it right away. Which makes a case even harder, and less evidence for the police to go off of. However, if anyone is raped and really wanted to find the person that did this to them, then why wouldn’t you go to the police immediately. There are always exceptions of course, but I think women are smart enough to go to the police right away. The reactions against this women that has accused Ben Roethlisberger are not shocking or out of the ordinary to me. Maybe she really was afraid to go to the police. Or maybe she really is doing it for the money. No one will really know for sure how this woman feels or what really happened to her. It does not look good that she waited so long to accuse him of rape, and is asking for money in return. In this case the women dug her hole when she did not report it because it made her look like a gold digger. I understand where people are accusing her of being a gold digger because that is what it looks like. By not reporting it and not bringing it up after a while seems like she had a plan and someone told her that she could maybe get money out of the incident if she told the police she was assaulted. If she went about this another way by telling the police instead of the security guards then more people would be sympathetic with what happened.
    When people hear that their favorite athlete, someone they look up too, did something wrong people automatically put on defense mode. They try to come up with every reason not to believe that their hero did not break the law so they target the other person which in the case was the assaulted women. I think that people should take a step back and look at the situation from outside. They should gather the facts that they have and try and be rational about what happened and act mature enough to have a little sympathy for the person that was assaulted. Hopefully Ben Roethlisberger knows what the right thing is and people will move on from the incident.

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  49. scoopJackson says:

    I think that the fact about this case is we really do not know the truth about what happened between the superstar quarterback, Ben Roethlisberger, and the hotel employee. Assumptions can be made about the woman who claims that she was raped by Big Ben, but none of these hold any weight when you are investigating the crime. When looking at a case like this we have to use the facts to imagine what happened in this encounter between the male and the female, and use that evidence to try to understand why this woman is now, months later, claiming to have been sexually assaulted. From what we know at this point there was a sexual encounter, but now it is our job to discuss the possible circumstances that led to the encounter and determine whether there was any foul play on the part of the Pittsburgh Steelers franchise player… the highest paid athlete in the NFL.
    Alright, so lets first take the point of view of the majority and assume, like everyone else, that this is another case exactly like Kobe Bryant’s where there was a star struck female who had sex with a professional athlete then saw an opportunity to sue that HUGELY rich athlete for all his money. We saw it before in Colorado, what makes the situation in Las Vegas any different? Las Vegas isn’t exactly the most holy of places in the country. Those who believe that this girl is a lier are simply seeing this world as a realistic place, in which a young hotel employee has the opportunity to sleep with a superstar, and like anybody else is their position they gave their consent in a heartbeat. After the fact, haters believe, this female saw even more opportunity to capitalize on their stoke of luck with the professional athlete and file a law suit against them for rape charges. They believe that this is a sick girl who wants to get her name out there and take his money… and I can honestly not say that this is doesn’t sound like a reasonable conclusion. I can, however, say that there is another opinion about this situation that takes a different perspective.
    Some they might see the situation as similar in the sense that the girl was aw-struck by the QB, but different with regards to their intention with the player. In this case, they would probably see Ben as the potential criminal in this case… which after all is person being charged. Often, as we have seen in our communities and small scale fan bases, these athletes can be extremely warped in their thought process due to the attention and the fame they receive. With this in mind, and just the benefit of the doubt, it is a possible situation that a rape took place in this Las Vegas hotel. The events that unfold will tell more, but I truly believe this cannot be determined by guesses.

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  50. There are no Browns fans says:

    Despite what many people may think about this case it is very typical of a woman who was raped to not report the crime to the police right away. Women sometimes feel ashamed and even blame themselves after they are raped or sexually assaulted. Others feel that nobody, especially the police, will believe them. Some women even feel that they will be judged by others. This is all evident in the comments listed beneath the video. People said she was a lying stupid whore and all they watched was a one minute YouTube clip. Even the comment about the woman being a browns fan was way off base because let’s face it there are no browns fans and there haven’t been for a long time. Just kidding there might be a few put there.
    Unless you have been put in a situation where you were the victim of a sexual assault or even a rape you may not pass judgment on how the victim handled the situation or whether or not the victim is telling the truth because there are actually only two people that know and you are not one of them. You are entitled to your opinion but it has no validity so it is probably best to keep it to yourself.
    This is a typical he said she said case and based on the fact that the woman waited so long to go to the police and the fact that she offered a very strange deal to Big Ben makes her story seem less believable. We have seen numerous times with other athletes such as Kobe Bryant. In the end Ben Roethlisberger will not be found guilty of any criminal charges and he will most likely reach an out of court settlement and pay the victim an outrageous amount of money. It is just the way these things work whether or not a sexual assault occurred. Now the question is this, does this open the door to athletes and other famous individuals to commit sexual assaults? It seems as if they are never convicted and everybody always believes them because they can drive eighty yards for the game winning touchdown in the biggest game of the year while the victim is just another face in the crowd. From the comments listed it would seem like athletes could get away with this behavior if they are so inclined and they have the money to fight the case to the death.
    This is a touchy issue and nobody except that woman and Ben Roethlisberger knows what really happened. But this won’t stop people from pretending they know what happened. I would tell you what I believe is the truth but why should I? I have as much credibility as the person that called her a stupid whore and a bitch.

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