Comments on: Question on Discrimination http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/ "A tiny act can have profound effects." Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:37:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: spf5027 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-26539 spf5027 Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:37:43 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1891#comment-26539 They will pick black employees. They will pick black employees.

]]> By: spf5027 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-26538 spf5027 Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:37:02 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1891#comment-26538 I think that a black person is more likely to pick a black person for a job. They feel that they should hire someone of the same race if the opportunity presents itself. It seems like they always see other black people get denied job positions, and they feel some sort of sympathy. I have not seen any businesses yet run by black people who hire white people for high positions. We are more likely to hire someone of the same race no matter who it is. We feel that it is right and very easy to hire someone of the same race regardless of the person. People may have different opinions on this issue but the fact is the majority of businesses ran by black people will simply higher black workers to the most part. I have not drove through a neighborhood full of black businesses and seen a lot of white workers. The simple fact is the majority of whites will higher whites and the majority of blacks will higher blacks. They think in their mind that it is easier to get things done with people of their own race, than struggle with race relations. Many people fear this issue, and they don’t want to go into it. One of the good things I think of SOC 119 is that it exposes you to these issues. I thought that this class would be hard to go through at first, but now it seems relatively easy for me to go through. This class is giving me a whole new perspective on race relations. We only get on side of the story through the media, but this class exposes all views and angles. I think it’s a good class. But getting back to the point, the fact that peoples of the same race higher each other is not prejudice based at all. It is simply that people are more comfortable around people like them. When there are different types of people working in one place, some people may believe this to be inefficient. One big example of this is the don’t ask don’t tell policy of the armed forces. People believe that they are all the same in the army and by that I mean the same sexual orientation. This makes things run a lot smoother because soldiers could bicker and pick on the people in the army if they outright new that they were gay. This policy is very effective, and without it our military would crumble. People need to set aside their differences and just work. The world of race shouldn’t be how it is today. But people will never change their values and it will always be like this. I think that a black person is more likely to pick a black person for a job. They feel that they should hire someone of the same race if the opportunity presents itself. It seems like they always see other black people get denied job positions, and they feel some sort of sympathy. I have not seen any businesses yet run by black people who hire white people for high positions. We are more likely to hire someone of the same race no matter who it is. We feel that it is right and very easy to hire someone of the same race regardless of the person.
People may have different opinions on this issue but the fact is the majority of businesses ran by black people will simply higher black workers to the most part. I have not drove through a neighborhood full of black businesses and seen a lot of white workers. The simple fact is the majority of whites will higher whites and the majority of blacks will higher blacks. They think in their mind that it is easier to get things done with people of their own race, than struggle with race relations. Many people fear this issue, and they don’t want to go into it. One of the good things I think of SOC 119 is that it exposes you to these issues. I thought that this class would be hard to go through at first, but now it seems relatively easy for me to go through.
This class is giving me a whole new perspective on race relations. We only get on side of the story through the media, but this class exposes all views and angles. I think it’s a good class. But getting back to the point, the fact that peoples of the same race higher each other is not prejudice based at all. It is simply that people are more comfortable around people like them. When there are different types of people working in one place, some people may believe this to be inefficient. One big example of this is the don’t ask don’t tell policy of the armed forces. People believe that they are all the same in the army and by that I mean the same sexual orientation. This makes things run a lot smoother because soldiers could bicker and pick on the people in the army if they outright new that they were gay. This policy is very effective, and without it our military would crumble. People need to set aside their differences and just work. The world of race shouldn’t be how it is today. But people will never change their values and it will always be like this.

]]> By: las5545 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-25547 las5545 Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:41:51 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1891#comment-25547 I feel that a person of color would choose a person of color. People of color feel a bond to each other, such as holocaust survivors do because they have experienced a great deal of pain and tough times together. People of color want to help other people of color who might not be as well off as they are and give them opportunities to succeed in life. This is not to say that a color person will pick another person of color who is not qualified for the job, just when deciding between two people who are equally qualifies they would choose the person of color because they see a little piece of themselves inside the person they are hiring….January 22 I feel that a person of color would choose a person of color. People of color feel a bond to each other, such as holocaust survivors do because they have experienced a great deal of pain and tough times together. People of color want to help other people of color who might not be as well off as they are and give them opportunities to succeed in life. This is not to say that a color person will pick another person of color who is not qualified for the job, just when deciding between two people who are equally qualifies they would choose the person of color because they see a little piece of themselves inside the person they are hiring….January 22

]]> By: vmartinez_0903 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-25092 vmartinez_0903 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:00:34 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1891#comment-25092 I think that each race will choose thier own race over any other race... initially. I think that people tend to choose what ever they are most comfortable with. When a person finally sees the characteristics of a person and their traits then maybe they can choose them based on that. I think that it is wrong to choose someone of your race or nationality just based on that. If a person goes on a job interview and they do not have good credentials, but the manager, or the person who is doing the hiring process, is of the same race and they are hired, then that is wrong. I think that each race will choose thier own race over any other race… initially. I think that people tend to choose what ever they are most comfortable with. When a person finally sees the characteristics of a person and their traits then maybe they can choose them based on that. I think that it is wrong to choose someone of your race or nationality just based on that. If a person goes on a job interview and they do not have good credentials, but the manager, or the person who is doing the hiring process, is of the same race and they are hired, then that is wrong.

]]> By: starjones10 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-23955 starjones10 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:48:48 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1891#comment-23955 I feel that discrimination starts because people dont build relationships and trust one another. Most people dont know how to trust because they have been hurt so then anything outside the box is discriminated against. I feel that trust is the key and communication will come. Trust is not about being deceived taking advantaged of or being tormented in anyway. It relies on being trust worthy. “Few things help an individual more to place responsibility upon him and to let him know that you trust him,” (Booker T. Washington). It’s understandable that most people place their trust in friends. However, sometimes even our closest friend may define trust in a different way than you do. By creating a survey and distributing it to peers, I came to find that some think, “trust is to be able to rely on another.” For instance, my friend Karen and I have known each other for more than 8 years, after knowing each other and hanging out you would think we would be more compatible and see things the same but it was the opposite. I told Karen about my mother being on drugs and I told her to keep it between me and her. Two days later I found out that she had been bad talking my family and telling everyone around the neighborhood. From that moment I realized that I no longer had positive expectations of Karen and our friendship nor could I trust her because of her behavior. It was also said that “Trusting people is to be able to share anything with that person.” Whether you are placing trust in your family or friends, no one wants to end up feeling deceived. The phenomenon of trust has been explored in various venues; economics, social psychology, and political sciences. Trust is a peculiar resource; it is built rather than depleted by use.” For example, everyone inherently trusts their family, believing that family is not misleading to one another. However when something happens and a family member betrays trust, or you discover that you cannot trust someone in your family, it may be the result of trust never had been built into the family structure at all. For example, my brother and I both received money on our birthdays. This particular year I got more money than he did and I asked him to put my money up for me so I would not spend it. Well, he held it and when I asked for it back he said he put in under his mattress. Of course, I went to look and it was not there. He said someone else took it but never bothered to offer it back to me. A while later my mother discovered that he had a gambling problem. Just because he was my oldest brother I thought it was more than enough reason to trust him but I was wrong It was just a logical way of expressing feelings. Trust comes from experiences and behaviors, not family expectations. You may be deceived if you trust too much but you will live in torment if you don’t trust enough.” For example, as a lonely freshman in a new high school, I did not have many friends. I decided to involve myself in after school programs to meet people. Because I love to write poetry I gave my English teacher my writing to revise. I thought that he was someone I could trust until one day when I fell asleep in his class and he waited until after all the students were gone to wake me up. He tried to molest me. I trusted him too much, and as a result, I was deceived. But if I never trusted him at all, my poetry would never have been revised or complemented. Theorists have developed a “theoretical perspective” on trust which argues that some people tend to trust more than others. “It’s an expectancy that functions to the degree of how trust has been honored and that individual’s history of prior social interactions. When reflecting back on my previous experience, realizing I could not trust my own teacher, someone who all students should be able to confide in, time has made me understand that my social encounters changed who and how I define trust. It has made me less eager to interact in class or even with people I’ve known for a long time. I had a block on my heart from that day on, and I was skeptical. Trust should make you feel a sense of closeness and ability to live up to positive expectations towards one another. As William Shakespeare once said “Love all, Trust a few.” The fact that it can be hard at times to trust individuals should not be an excuse never to trust again. But, it should lead to being careful about where you place your trust in future situations. Trusting is confiding in someone over time. Not through betrayal but the willingness of the person’s actions. I feel that discrimination starts because people dont build relationships and trust one another. Most people dont know how to trust because they have been hurt so then anything outside the box is discriminated against. I feel that trust is the key and communication will come.
Trust is not about being deceived taking advantaged of or being tormented in anyway. It relies on being trust worthy. “Few things help an individual more to place responsibility upon him and to let him know that you trust him,” (Booker T. Washington). It’s understandable that most people place their trust in friends. However, sometimes even our closest friend may define trust in a different way than you do. By creating a survey and distributing it to peers, I came to find that some think, “trust is to be able to rely on another.” For instance, my friend Karen and I have known each other for more than 8 years, after knowing each other and hanging out you would think we would be more compatible and see things the same but it was the opposite. I told Karen about my mother being on drugs and I told her to keep it between me and her. Two days later I found out that she had been bad talking my family and telling everyone around the neighborhood. From that moment I realized that I no longer had positive expectations of Karen and our friendship nor could I trust her because of her behavior. It was also said that “Trusting people is to be able to share anything with that person.” Whether you are placing trust in your family or friends, no one wants to end up feeling deceived.
The phenomenon of trust has been explored in various venues; economics, social psychology, and political sciences. Trust is a peculiar resource; it is built rather than depleted by use.” For example, everyone inherently trusts their family, believing that family is not misleading to one another. However when something happens and a family member betrays trust, or you discover that you cannot trust someone in your family, it may be the result of trust never had been built into the family structure at all. For example, my brother and I both received money on our birthdays. This particular year I got more money than he did and I asked him to put my money up for me so I would not spend it. Well, he held it and when I asked for it back he said he put in under his mattress. Of course, I went to look and it was not there. He said someone else took it but never bothered to offer it back to me. A while later my mother discovered that he had a gambling problem. Just because he was my oldest brother I thought it was more than enough reason to trust him but I was wrong It was just a logical way of expressing feelings. Trust comes from experiences and behaviors, not family expectations.
You may be deceived if you trust too much but you will live in torment if you don’t trust enough.” For example, as a lonely freshman in a new high school, I did not have many friends. I decided to involve myself in after school programs to meet people. Because I love to write poetry I gave my English teacher my writing to revise. I thought that he was someone I could trust until one day when I fell asleep in his class and he waited until after all the students were gone to wake me up. He tried to molest me. I trusted him too much, and as a result, I was deceived. But if I never trusted him at all, my poetry would never have been revised or complemented.
Theorists have developed a “theoretical perspective” on trust which argues that some people tend to trust more than others. “It’s an expectancy that functions to the degree of how trust has been honored and that individual’s history of prior social interactions. When reflecting back on my previous experience, realizing I could not trust my own teacher, someone who all students should be able to confide in, time has made me understand that my social encounters changed who and how I define trust. It has made me less eager to interact in class or even with people I’ve known for a long time. I had a block on my heart from that day on, and I was skeptical. Trust should make you feel a sense of closeness and ability to live up to positive expectations towards one another.
As William Shakespeare once said “Love all, Trust a few.” The fact that it can be hard at times to trust individuals should not be an excuse never to trust again. But, it should lead to being careful about where you place your trust in future situations. Trusting is confiding in someone over time. Not through betrayal but the willingness of the person’s actions.

]]> By: bcw5060 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-23856 bcw5060 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:05:02 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1891#comment-23856 I think it depends on the situation. I know the company my brother works for he is the only white person who works there. They said they hired him to be a liaison between them and other white business owners because they felt white business owners felt uncomfortable or less accepting when talking to black people. He was even informed to pretend that his boss is his client and that he is the boss when addressing other businesses. Since his hire sales have gone up especially with other white businesses. I found this to be very interesting and somewhat not shocking actually. In my eyes I am not surprised that a white business owner would be more accepting of a white person than a black person trying to sell them something. Unfortunately that is just the way it is. It is very deep rooted in our society and we take very unusual approaches for a quick fix in this department. I think it depends on the situation. I know the company my brother works for he is the only white person who works there. They said they hired him to be a liaison between them and other white business owners because they felt white business owners felt uncomfortable or less accepting when talking to black people. He was even informed to pretend that his boss is his client and that he is the boss when addressing other businesses. Since his hire sales have gone up especially with other white businesses. I found this to be very interesting and somewhat not shocking actually. In my eyes I am not surprised that a white business owner would be more accepting of a white person than a black person trying to sell them something. Unfortunately that is just the way it is. It is very deep rooted in our society and we take very unusual approaches for a quick fix in this department.

]]> By: thebathingape http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-23481 thebathingape Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:22:19 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1891#comment-23481 It’s actually pretty cool that you brought that up because I was thinking the same exact thing and remember that particular class. However, while it is a valid point, it is not congruent with my personal standpoint on the matter. Though I would like to say that I would choose the most competent and capable person, regardless of color, that is not always the case. Personally, I feel as though a person of color would tend to choose another person of color, just as a white person would tend to choose another white person. In many ways, it comes down to who you are most comfortable around and, more times than not, it will probably end up being the person most similar to yourself. It’s actually pretty cool that you brought that up because I was thinking the same exact thing and remember that particular class. However, while it is a valid point, it is not congruent with my personal standpoint on the matter.

Though I would like to say that I would choose the most competent and capable person, regardless of color, that is not always the case. Personally, I feel as though a person of color would tend to choose another person of color, just as a white person would tend to choose another white person. In many ways, it comes down to who you are most comfortable around and, more times than not, it will probably end up being the person most similar to yourself.

]]> By: rms5294 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-23466 rms5294 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:31:11 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1891#comment-23466 This is a very difficult question, but intriguing. I haven't really thought of it this way. But maybe black people, or people of other cultures, aren't really making the decisions, as much as white people. This is completely ridiculous. It should be all about the resume. I think its crazy that we still live in a day where people are prejudice based on skin color. I just don't understand. Even if more white people are making decisions on who to hire, you would think more people would be like us, and understand these basic concepts. Are people really this immoral? Do they really think it is okay to justify not hiring someone because of skin tone? I just don't understand it. These things never should have came about. Its just frustrating. To answer the question though, I don't recall learning that black people were choosing white people. I feel that anyone in the position to choose a candidate for a job should look solely at the application. But it probably won't ever be this way; that is of course....... if we make a machine that basically looks only at the resume and compares the two, or hundreds, and picks the one that makes the most sense. Hmm.. This is a very difficult question, but intriguing. I haven't really thought of it this way. But maybe black people, or people of other cultures, aren't really making the decisions, as much as white people. This is completely ridiculous. It should be all about the resume. I think its crazy that we still live in a day where people are prejudice based on skin color. I just don't understand. Even if more white people are making decisions on who to hire, you would think more people would be like us, and understand these basic concepts. Are people really this immoral? Do they really think it is okay to justify not hiring someone because of skin tone? I just don't understand it. These things never should have came about. Its just frustrating. To answer the question though, I don't recall learning that black people were choosing white people. I feel that anyone in the position to choose a candidate for a job should look solely at the application. But it probably won't ever be this way; that is of course……. if we make a machine that basically looks only at the resume and compares the two, or hundreds, and picks the one that makes the most sense. Hmm..

]]> By: debateorgohome http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-23425 debateorgohome Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:02:18 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1891#comment-23425 This is a great question. I think that a black person is more likely to choose another black person than a white person. I feel like people have a tendency to choose other people that are like them. Although just because a person has the same skin color as you doesn’t mean they are similar to you, it is the first noticeable difference. You can’t deny that. I hate when people say “I don’t see skin color”. Of course you do, how could you not? No matter what, I think it’s always in the back of people’s minds. Whether or not a person associates stereotypes with a skin color is what makes the difference between racist and non racist people. This is a great question. I think that a black person is more likely to choose another black person than a white person. I feel like people have a tendency to choose other people that are like them. Although just because a person has the same skin color as you doesn’t mean they are similar to you, it is the first noticeable difference. You can’t deny that. I hate when people say “I don’t see skin color”. Of course you do, how could you not? No matter what, I think it’s always in the back of people’s minds. Whether or not a person associates stereotypes with a skin color is what makes the difference between racist and non racist people.

]]> By: mlav3391 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/question-on-discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-23391 mlav3391 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:56:24 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1891#comment-23391 With the statistics shown in class, Sam told us that black people were apart of the application process. So that goes to show that not only white people were hiring whites over black people. As much as everyone wants to point their fingers at white people for discriminating against people of color they have no right to. People of color are as guilty as white people are according to this study. I find it to be even worse that people of color were involved in this process because it shows that they aren’t even willing to give their own kind an equal chance. With the statistics shown in class, Sam told us that black people were apart of the application process. So that goes to show that not only white people were hiring whites over black people. As much as everyone wants to point their fingers at white people for discriminating against people of color they have no right to. People of color are as guilty as white people are according to this study. I find it to be even worse that people of color were involved in this process because it shows that they aren’t even willing to give their own kind an equal chance.

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