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		<title>By: ilovesoc</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I think it is not only normal, but healthy to question other faiths, even your own.  Why would anyone want to go through life only believing one thing, only knowing one political affiliation, and only being friends with those of the same race?  You need to explore what is right for you in order to be completely happy with your life.  I just happen to have the same religious views as my parents, but I am still undecided on how I feel politically.  I think that points from both sides of the spectrum (Republican and Democrat) are valid and speak to me more than others.  Some of these points however are contradictory, and that is where I have to decide which is more right to me.  It is the same with the Bible.  Yes, there are some condracticting verses, but you also have to understand that the Old Testament and the New Testament are from completely different times.  A lot of rules and practices within the Old Testament were done away with in the New Testament.  Some religions still practice the views of the Old, but even I consider most of it outdated.  EVeryone has their own interpretation of verses and scriptures, it is just up to you to decide what they mean in your life. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I think it is not only normal, but healthy to question other faiths, even your own.  Why would anyone want to go through life only believing one thing, only knowing one political affiliation, and only being friends with those of the same race?  You need to explore what is right for you in order to be completely happy with your life.  I just happen to have the same religious views as my parents, but I am still undecided on how I feel politically.  I think that points from both sides of the spectrum (Republican and Democrat) are valid and speak to me more than others.  Some of these points however are contradictory, and that is where I have to decide which is more right to me.  It is the same with the Bible.  Yes, there are some condracticting verses, but you also have to understand that the Old Testament and the New Testament are from completely different times.  A lot of rules and practices within the Old Testament were done away with in the New Testament.  Some religions still practice the views of the Old, but even I consider most of it outdated.  EVeryone has their own interpretation of verses and scriptures, it is just up to you to decide what they mean in your life.</p>
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		<title>By: sjn5014</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion is such an interesting topic, the belief that people have.  Its interesting to analyze.  To me religion has been created by humans for humans.  It&#8217;s the meaning to our existence, we of conscious thought have needs, we want to know why&#8230; 
 
Maybe that&#8217;s why some question religion, and way why does religion exist.  It all comes down to a certain type of faith.  Maybe be that faith is in logic, maybe in God, maybe science, maybe family.  Whatever it is; who knows if what we believe as fundamentally true, really is the truth.  One day we may find a loop hole in gravity for that matter, or that the world isn&#8217;t flat, maybe paradox&#8217;s like time travel are really solvable, just as the notion of flight is as well.   
 
So when I read this article, a moral critique on the bible and our society, I think of the hard on that the Sultan has in Disney&#8217;s Aladdin.  I mean many argue that the porn industry is a critical driver to our economy and its evolution.  It makes perfect sense to me that the individuals writing the bible were influenced by human nature, just as we see in our culture today.  History is a slippery and subjective beast.   
 
I sit here and write and wonder what people are thinking as they finish my entry above?  I feel that doubt and skepticism may come readily to many.  I probably would.  I mean this is a complex world that we live in.  There must be something that I am not thinking about.  Most likely that&#8217;s the truth of it, but I also do believe that our society/culture informs what we believe and that anything that goes against the grain often has a reaction of doubt.  This doubt is a reaction, a thought that often has not been thought through.   
 
What if we grew up in a society that was centered upon a philosophy or religion with a foundation of questioning?  What would our thoughts reflect?  Either way I say that the bible is twisted, filled with sexual innuendos because our society worships the porn industry.  From where I sit that isn&#8217;t a new thing either.  I also realize that I may be wrong, but the beauty of it is that Im probably right in one sense or another, from one perspective or another, just as the bible is morally sound from certain perspectives and morally unsound from another.  All is truth and all is a lie.  
 
Free will or determinism, I&#8217;m sticking with determinism, then I dont have to be all anxious about how messed up the world is.  I don&#8217;t feel all the weight of my life and the people that my actions effect, because I don&#8217;t have a choice.   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion is such an interesting topic, the belief that people have.  Its interesting to analyze.  To me religion has been created by humans for humans.  It&rsquo;s the meaning to our existence, we of conscious thought have needs, we want to know why&hellip; </p>
<p>Maybe that&rsquo;s why some question religion, and way why does religion exist.  It all comes down to a certain type of faith.  Maybe be that faith is in logic, maybe in God, maybe science, maybe family.  Whatever it is; who knows if what we believe as fundamentally true, really is the truth.  One day we may find a loop hole in gravity for that matter, or that the world isn&rsquo;t flat, maybe paradox&rsquo;s like time travel are really solvable, just as the notion of flight is as well.   </p>
<p>So when I read this article, a moral critique on the bible and our society, I think of the hard on that the Sultan has in Disney&rsquo;s Aladdin.  I mean many argue that the porn industry is a critical driver to our economy and its evolution.  It makes perfect sense to me that the individuals writing the bible were influenced by human nature, just as we see in our culture today.  History is a slippery and subjective beast.   </p>
<p>I sit here and write and wonder what people are thinking as they finish my entry above?  I feel that doubt and skepticism may come readily to many.  I probably would.  I mean this is a complex world that we live in.  There must be something that I am not thinking about.  Most likely that&rsquo;s the truth of it, but I also do believe that our society/culture informs what we believe and that anything that goes against the grain often has a reaction of doubt.  This doubt is a reaction, a thought that often has not been thought through.   </p>
<p>What if we grew up in a society that was centered upon a philosophy or religion with a foundation of questioning?  What would our thoughts reflect?  Either way I say that the bible is twisted, filled with sexual innuendos because our society worships the porn industry.  From where I sit that isn&rsquo;t a new thing either.  I also realize that I may be wrong, but the beauty of it is that Im probably right in one sense or another, from one perspective or another, just as the bible is morally sound from certain perspectives and morally unsound from another.  All is truth and all is a lie.  </p>
<p>Free will or determinism, I&rsquo;m sticking with determinism, then I dont have to be all anxious about how messed up the world is.  I don&rsquo;t feel all the weight of my life and the people that my actions effect, because I don&rsquo;t have a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: SamanthaShapiro</title>
		<link>http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/the-xxx-bible-who-wouldve-thought/comment-page-3/#comment-21796</link>
		<dc:creator>SamanthaShapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article really had my mind going while reading it. I guess because I was in Catholic School for most of my life, I never thought things about religion for myself. All thought my childhood going to church and CCD I never questioned anything against the Bible. And know being an adult in college who is not really into religion, this topic has never really crossed my mind; until now. First off I never even thought about the whole Adam and Eve thing. They are right its complete incest, you have Adam and Eve for have children, but them where do we go from there? They must be reproducing with each other to create more life. I guess when my CCD teacher said that &#8220;we are all brothers and sisters&#8221; she wasn&#8217;t really lying ha ha. Anyway getting back to the article, I knew that over the years the Bible has been censored but I never though this much! It ridicules how prude some religions can be. Sex plays a big part in life and I don&#8217;t see why it must all be censored out. Last semester I took an other cultures mythology class (which by the way was great) we read stories from all parts of the world, Africa, India, Middle East. Once again all of the stories were mainly about sex. It didn&#8217;t seem to bother anyone in the class and the professor even warned us that sex and human private parts played a big role in all the cultures. Yet you do not see them taking or censoring out those parts. One story even went into great detail about how sex is the only thing that keeps a marriage/ relationship together. You would never ever read that in the Bible, even though it is not a bad thing at all! But yes not all the stories in the Bible are clean cut like the CCD teachers want you to think. I do agree that most of the events in the Bible are very risky. There is a lot of rape, killing, sex etc. in the Bible, but those were events that have happened, why would or more importantly who gives anyone the right to change or leave out these events! I think it should be read how it was written; no one should change someone&#8217;s work. The opening to this article really sparked my curiosity, I have never heard of God taking the bone from Adam&#8217;s penis and making him a woman. Then it is later changed or translated as his rib. This doesn&#8217;t even make sense, if it was from his rib, wouldn&#8217;t men have one less rib bone then women? Yet I can see that things from the book could possible get mistranslated but when it most always involves something along the lines or sex and body parts, one has to start wondering if that mistranslation was truly meant to happen.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article really had my mind going while reading it. I guess because I was in Catholic School for most of my life, I never thought things about religion for myself. All thought my childhood going to church and CCD I never questioned anything against the Bible. And know being an adult in college who is not really into religion, this topic has never really crossed my mind; until now. First off I never even thought about the whole Adam and Eve thing. They are right its complete incest, you have Adam and Eve for have children, but them where do we go from there? They must be reproducing with each other to create more life. I guess when my CCD teacher said that &ldquo;we are all brothers and sisters&rdquo; she wasn&rsquo;t really lying ha ha. Anyway getting back to the article, I knew that over the years the Bible has been censored but I never though this much! It ridicules how prude some religions can be. Sex plays a big part in life and I don&rsquo;t see why it must all be censored out. Last semester I took an other cultures mythology class (which by the way was great) we read stories from all parts of the world, Africa, India, Middle East. Once again all of the stories were mainly about sex. It didn&rsquo;t seem to bother anyone in the class and the professor even warned us that sex and human private parts played a big role in all the cultures. Yet you do not see them taking or censoring out those parts. One story even went into great detail about how sex is the only thing that keeps a marriage/ relationship together. You would never ever read that in the Bible, even though it is not a bad thing at all! But yes not all the stories in the Bible are clean cut like the CCD teachers want you to think. I do agree that most of the events in the Bible are very risky. There is a lot of rape, killing, sex etc. in the Bible, but those were events that have happened, why would or more importantly who gives anyone the right to change or leave out these events! I think it should be read how it was written; no one should change someone&rsquo;s work. The opening to this article really sparked my curiosity, I have never heard of God taking the bone from Adam&rsquo;s penis and making him a woman. Then it is later changed or translated as his rib. This doesn&rsquo;t even make sense, if it was from his rib, wouldn&rsquo;t men have one less rib bone then women? Yet I can see that things from the book could possible get mistranslated but when it most always involves something along the lines or sex and body parts, one has to start wondering if that mistranslation was truly meant to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Ada5043</title>
		<link>http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/the-xxx-bible-who-wouldve-thought/comment-page-3/#comment-21758</link>
		<dc:creator>Ada5043</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that the article was highly biased. The vast majority if individuals today, who follow some version of the Bible, follow more of the New Testament than the Old Testament. During the time of the Old Testament, the world was very different than what we know today. However, over the years, the commandments written in the bible have been modified to accommodate times such as the one in which we now live. Granted, the bible is a book inspired by the God, but it doesn&#8217;t postulate to be anymore than that. The individuals who wrote the bible made clear distinctions between direct commandment by God, and those interpreted by themselves.  Regardless of which, it is a book that guides the lives of many. I believe that everyone is going to have their own interpretation of the book, but the ability to do so any way we chooses was also granted to us by God.  
 
Going back to the idea of Eve being made from the bone of Adams penis, in my interpretation, I don&#8217;t believe this to be true. The penis is where the seed which produces off spring comes from. To say that Eve was produced from the bone of Adams penis symbolically puts her in the position of Adams child. However, the rib is at the side of the man. I do not believe God made a mistake and commanded the writers of the book to say rib when he actually meant penis. God doesn&#8217;t make mistakes. And as the divine inspirer of the bible, I don&#8217;t believe that there are mistakes in the book either. The time was different, and what we perceive as a mistake written in the word now, was not a mistake to those who wrote it. Our interpretation is based on the evolution of time and knowledge. As such, I believe the bible should be read with the knowledge that it is still more than relevant to us as individuals today, but was written in a context suited to the time in which the book was originally written. Yet, I digress.  I do not believe there was a mistake between rib and penis. Symbolically, the rib at Adams side represents a helpmate; someone who will stand at the side the man. To me, this makes more sense than being drawn from the penis. I feel that Eve not being from the penis accommodates the fact that incest would in time be seen as wrong. In the New Testament, we see a new era of commandments that better suit our ability to follow despite our different time period.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that the article was highly biased. The vast majority if individuals today, who follow some version of the Bible, follow more of the New Testament than the Old Testament. During the time of the Old Testament, the world was very different than what we know today. However, over the years, the commandments written in the bible have been modified to accommodate times such as the one in which we now live. Granted, the bible is a book inspired by the God, but it doesn&rsquo;t postulate to be anymore than that. The individuals who wrote the bible made clear distinctions between direct commandment by God, and those interpreted by themselves.  Regardless of which, it is a book that guides the lives of many. I believe that everyone is going to have their own interpretation of the book, but the ability to do so any way we chooses was also granted to us by God.  </p>
<p>Going back to the idea of Eve being made from the bone of Adams penis, in my interpretation, I don&rsquo;t believe this to be true. The penis is where the seed which produces off spring comes from. To say that Eve was produced from the bone of Adams penis symbolically puts her in the position of Adams child. However, the rib is at the side of the man. I do not believe God made a mistake and commanded the writers of the book to say rib when he actually meant penis. God doesn&rsquo;t make mistakes. And as the divine inspirer of the bible, I don&rsquo;t believe that there are mistakes in the book either. The time was different, and what we perceive as a mistake written in the word now, was not a mistake to those who wrote it. Our interpretation is based on the evolution of time and knowledge. As such, I believe the bible should be read with the knowledge that it is still more than relevant to us as individuals today, but was written in a context suited to the time in which the book was originally written. Yet, I digress.  I do not believe there was a mistake between rib and penis. Symbolically, the rib at Adams side represents a helpmate; someone who will stand at the side the man. To me, this makes more sense than being drawn from the penis. I feel that Eve not being from the penis accommodates the fact that incest would in time be seen as wrong. In the New Testament, we see a new era of commandments that better suit our ability to follow despite our different time period.</p>
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		<title>By: gcj</title>
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		<dc:creator>gcj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion is a topic we all struggle with, the reason is because it helps define who we are.  I will address the article later on in this post but I want to first address your feelings. I will not say that you should not question your religion that is something even the most religious people have done. Questioning aspects of your religion helps you to realize more about yourself and your religion. Another good reason for questioning some stories or even beliefs is because it prepares you for situation like this, when others question your religion. 
 
                Sam speaks about how the bible was written by humans and was inspired by God, this is definitely true. Later he compares the authors of the bible with him and how someone inspires him. What he fails to comprehend is that God is not another human who is inspiring the authors, he is the Supreme Being. Of course non-believers will say that this is the typical answer they expect from a Christian, to refer to God as the Supreme power who is strictly righteous. I believe that the authors do add their own twist and most certainly include their own bias into the bible. 
 
The article initially caught my attention. I was not totally convinced that their fact about Eve being made from the bone of a penis was true but at least I thought it was a plausible belief. As I kept reading the story it lost credibility with me. I wonder if the author of the article or even Sam, for that matter, could give a logical answer as to how that would change the true meaning of the scriptures. Say if she 
(Eve) was derived from a bone in Adam&#8217;s penis, does that changed the fact that both were creations from God. Does this change the fact that Eve was made from a part of Adam&#8217;s anatomy and they indeed sinned and was kicked out of the garden of Egypt? 
 
As a Christian scholar, I have studied the bible and have questioned some things about the bible. One fact I found was that some men were accredited with accomplishments in the bible that were actually done by women. Again this does not change the fact that God allowed someone to make these accomplishments. The main facts about the Bible are not ambiguous: the fact that we were created by God, the crucifixion, resurrection and ascension of Jesus, the gift of the Holy Spirit, and the promise that Jesus will return. I believe there are two different types f Christians. There are those who do not allow others to question their beliefs in fear that they will not be able to answer and then there are Christians like me. I am a realist, we are humans and with that we fall short of the glory of God: both Christians and non Christians. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion is a topic we all struggle with, the reason is because it helps define who we are.  I will address the article later on in this post but I want to first address your feelings. I will not say that you should not question your religion that is something even the most religious people have done. Questioning aspects of your religion helps you to realize more about yourself and your religion. Another good reason for questioning some stories or even beliefs is because it prepares you for situation like this, when others question your religion. </p>
<p>                Sam speaks about how the bible was written by humans and was inspired by God, this is definitely true. Later he compares the authors of the bible with him and how someone inspires him. What he fails to comprehend is that God is not another human who is inspiring the authors, he is the Supreme Being. Of course non-believers will say that this is the typical answer they expect from a Christian, to refer to God as the Supreme power who is strictly righteous. I believe that the authors do add their own twist and most certainly include their own bias into the bible. </p>
<p>The article initially caught my attention. I was not totally convinced that their fact about Eve being made from the bone of a penis was true but at least I thought it was a plausible belief. As I kept reading the story it lost credibility with me. I wonder if the author of the article or even Sam, for that matter, could give a logical answer as to how that would change the true meaning of the scriptures. Say if she<br />
(Eve) was derived from a bone in Adam&rsquo;s penis, does that changed the fact that both were creations from God. Does this change the fact that Eve was made from a part of Adam&rsquo;s anatomy and they indeed sinned and was kicked out of the garden of Egypt? </p>
<p>As a Christian scholar, I have studied the bible and have questioned some things about the bible. One fact I found was that some men were accredited with accomplishments in the bible that were actually done by women. Again this does not change the fact that God allowed someone to make these accomplishments. The main facts about the Bible are not ambiguous: the fact that we were created by God, the crucifixion, resurrection and ascension of Jesus, the gift of the Holy Spirit, and the promise that Jesus will return. I believe there are two different types f Christians. There are those who do not allow others to question their beliefs in fear that they will not be able to answer and then there are Christians like me. I am a realist, we are humans and with that we fall short of the glory of God: both Christians and non Christians.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyD88</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerard Butler said it best as the lead role in the movie &#8220;Law Abiding Citizen&#8221;: it&#8217;s not what&#8217;s true; it&#8217;s what you can prove in court. 
 
Though we&#8217;re not a courtroom, the same principle applies to the situation of lewd metaphors and sexual innuendo in the Bible.  The &#8220;Adam&#8217;s Family Jewels&#8221; post by Krausz presents some intriguing theories about the meanings of certain words in the Bible, theories that had never before crossed my mind.  The theories and explanations of the theories make a lot of sense.  The thing is, Krausz doesn&#8217;t include any hard evidence to support the claims, so I can&#8217;t fully bring myself to believe them.  They&#8217;re very convincing, and very well may be true, but because there is no proof, I&#8217;m skeptical.  And that demonstrates that it&#8217;s not necessarily the truth that counts, but what can be proved.  That&#8217;s what is most believable. 
 
For instance, should Krausz&#8217;s claim the word &#8220;tsela,&#8221; traditionally translated to mean &#8220;rib,&#8221; be taken in it&#8217;s literal sense, or is it, as Krausz claims, a euphemism for &#8220;penis bone?&#8221;  It&#8217;s very convincing based on the argument presented, but the bottom line is, without proof, we&#8217;ll never know for sure. 
 
As intriguing as Krausz&#8217;s post was, what is even more interesting is how defensive the Church can become when the Scripture is challenged.  What popped into my head was author Dan Brown&#8217;s &#8220;The Da Vinci Code&#8221; and the reasoning the Church provided (or didn&#8217;t provide) against Brown&#8217;s portrayal of historical fact in his book.  A Christian Web site endorsed by credible ministries and churches, allaboutgod.com, attempted to convince readers Brown&#8217;s claims of fact, such as the marriage and offspring of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, were not true.  Key word: attempted.  Attempts weren&#8217;t good. 
 
The site claimed because Brown&#8217;s claims were presented in a fiction book, the claims were also fiction: &#8220;Even claims that something is true, when found in a fiction book, are still fiction.  If Brown had truly wanted to enlighten the world about his true nature of Jesus and the Catholic Church, he would have done so in a non-fiction setting.&#8221;  The site went on to suggest Brown did this to &#8220;conjure interest&#8221; in his book and &#8220;increase sales,&#8221; or because the world he created actually does exist, but only in his mind. 
 
Or this one: &#8220;[Brown] claims that these extra writings defined Jesus as merely a man and not divine. That is simply not true.&#8221;  Nothing more said on why that &#8220;is simply not true.&#8221;  How much credibility is behind claims like these?  Certainly no more than is behind the claims Brown made in his book. 
 
Brown&#8217;s claims are based primarily on testimony, not the most credible proof, but those claims were intriguing and believable.  The real question is, does the fact that the Church so heavily denies Brown&#8217;s claims aid Brown&#8217;s cause in demonstrating their truth?  A lack of evidence against Brown may prove just as much as concrete physical evidence for his claims.  And the scary part is this: There are people who accept what the Church says as true simply because the Church says so. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerard Butler said it best as the lead role in the movie &ldquo;Law Abiding Citizen&rdquo;: it&rsquo;s not what&rsquo;s true; it&rsquo;s what you can prove in court. </p>
<p>Though we&rsquo;re not a courtroom, the same principle applies to the situation of lewd metaphors and sexual innuendo in the Bible.  The &ldquo;Adam&rsquo;s Family Jewels&rdquo; post by Krausz presents some intriguing theories about the meanings of certain words in the Bible, theories that had never before crossed my mind.  The theories and explanations of the theories make a lot of sense.  The thing is, Krausz doesn&rsquo;t include any hard evidence to support the claims, so I can&rsquo;t fully bring myself to believe them.  They&rsquo;re very convincing, and very well may be true, but because there is no proof, I&rsquo;m skeptical.  And that demonstrates that it&rsquo;s not necessarily the truth that counts, but what can be proved.  That&rsquo;s what is most believable. </p>
<p>For instance, should Krausz&rsquo;s claim the word &ldquo;tsela,&rdquo; traditionally translated to mean &ldquo;rib,&rdquo; be taken in it&rsquo;s literal sense, or is it, as Krausz claims, a euphemism for &ldquo;penis bone?&rdquo;  It&rsquo;s very convincing based on the argument presented, but the bottom line is, without proof, we&rsquo;ll never know for sure. </p>
<p>As intriguing as Krausz&rsquo;s post was, what is even more interesting is how defensive the Church can become when the Scripture is challenged.  What popped into my head was author Dan Brown&rsquo;s &ldquo;The Da Vinci Code&rdquo; and the reasoning the Church provided (or didn&rsquo;t provide) against Brown&rsquo;s portrayal of historical fact in his book.  A Christian Web site endorsed by credible ministries and churches, allaboutgod.com, attempted to convince readers Brown&rsquo;s claims of fact, such as the marriage and offspring of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, were not true.  Key word: attempted.  Attempts weren&rsquo;t good. </p>
<p>The site claimed because Brown&rsquo;s claims were presented in a fiction book, the claims were also fiction: &ldquo;Even claims that something is true, when found in a fiction book, are still fiction.  If Brown had truly wanted to enlighten the world about his true nature of Jesus and the Catholic Church, he would have done so in a non-fiction setting.&rdquo;  The site went on to suggest Brown did this to &ldquo;conjure interest&rdquo; in his book and &ldquo;increase sales,&rdquo; or because the world he created actually does exist, but only in his mind. </p>
<p>Or this one: &ldquo;[Brown] claims that these extra writings defined Jesus as merely a man and not divine. That is simply not true.&rdquo;  Nothing more said on why that &ldquo;is simply not true.&rdquo;  How much credibility is behind claims like these?  Certainly no more than is behind the claims Brown made in his book. </p>
<p>Brown&rsquo;s claims are based primarily on testimony, not the most credible proof, but those claims were intriguing and believable.  The real question is, does the fact that the Church so heavily denies Brown&rsquo;s claims aid Brown&rsquo;s cause in demonstrating their truth?  A lack of evidence against Brown may prove just as much as concrete physical evidence for his claims.  And the scary part is this: There are people who accept what the Church says as true simply because the Church says so.</p>
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		<title>By: tahirajw</title>
		<link>http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/the-xxx-bible-who-wouldve-thought/comment-page-2/#comment-21739</link>
		<dc:creator>tahirajw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being that I am a religious person, I found this article very interesting. The main thing religious people need to do with an article like this is to put religion aside. The approach to the Bible must be in a way to where we see it as a fictional book. This article supports every nonbeliever who can say that the Bible is man-made and could have had error when writing the stories. But in this article, the take is different. It is saying that the Bible was written the exact way it is now, but just with a different interpretation. When thinking about it, no one takes much time to think about the sexual aspects of the Bible. Most of the time it is the overall broad things in Bible stories that are sexually thought of. For example, people know stories about how David had many wives and was deceitful by committing adultery, but it has not been thought about in a way to where we see him as a man whore who slept with every woman he saw. I actually found it quite funny the way they interpreted the Adam and Eve story. If I wanted to interpret what the man believes against the typical view, I could say that God used Adam&#039;s penis as a biological method. The penis is used for reproduction, so wouldn&#039;t it make more since to have made Eve from that part of the body rather than a rib. People always say that the rib makes since to use because it is the protection for all the internal organs. It guards the heart, lungs, kidneys, liver, and more. The man is supposed to protect the woman, so the rib makes since in that way. Another interpretation is that the woman is supposed to be the support system for a man. In that way, making her out of a rib could make sense. Another thing that I hadn&#8217;t thought about is the word &#8220;testify.&#8221; We do use it in court but I hadn&#8217;t thought about its similarity to testes. Why is it that a word that relates to speaking in court is also used to describe male genitals? This is one of those everyday little things that no one takes the time to think about. It is interesting how they took different Bible stories and turned them into sexual views. My interpretation of the Bible is still the same as before. I believe people purposely try to turn the Bible&#8217;s words into things that challenge what religious Christians think. I will admit that this is a clever way to do it. How can we possible know what the article writer is stating is fact? The version of the Bible everyone knows has been translated and there is no way we can know what the ancient language actually means. We just have to trust that the people who translated the Bible are correct. I wish I could have the original document, but there&#8217;s no way I&#8217;d be able to interpret it myself unless someone else translated it into whatever they think it means. It goes that way for many societies. We have things translated so we can understand it in our language, but there&#8217;s no way of knowing whether the person who translated it is correct unless you speak with the original writers themselves. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being that I am a religious person, I found this article very interesting. The main thing religious people need to do with an article like this is to put religion aside. The approach to the Bible must be in a way to where we see it as a fictional book. This article supports every nonbeliever who can say that the Bible is man-made and could have had error when writing the stories. But in this article, the take is different. It is saying that the Bible was written the exact way it is now, but just with a different interpretation. When thinking about it, no one takes much time to think about the sexual aspects of the Bible. Most of the time it is the overall broad things in Bible stories that are sexually thought of. For example, people know stories about how David had many wives and was deceitful by committing adultery, but it has not been thought about in a way to where we see him as a man whore who slept with every woman he saw. I actually found it quite funny the way they interpreted the Adam and Eve story. If I wanted to interpret what the man believes against the typical view, I could say that God used Adam&#039;s penis as a biological method. The penis is used for reproduction, so wouldn&#039;t it make more since to have made Eve from that part of the body rather than a rib. People always say that the rib makes since to use because it is the protection for all the internal organs. It guards the heart, lungs, kidneys, liver, and more. The man is supposed to protect the woman, so the rib makes since in that way. Another interpretation is that the woman is supposed to be the support system for a man. In that way, making her out of a rib could make sense. Another thing that I hadn&rsquo;t thought about is the word &ldquo;testify.&rdquo; We do use it in court but I hadn&rsquo;t thought about its similarity to testes. Why is it that a word that relates to speaking in court is also used to describe male genitals? This is one of those everyday little things that no one takes the time to think about. It is interesting how they took different Bible stories and turned them into sexual views. My interpretation of the Bible is still the same as before. I believe people purposely try to turn the Bible&rsquo;s words into things that challenge what religious Christians think. I will admit that this is a clever way to do it. How can we possible know what the article writer is stating is fact? The version of the Bible everyone knows has been translated and there is no way we can know what the ancient language actually means. We just have to trust that the people who translated the Bible are correct. I wish I could have the original document, but there&rsquo;s no way I&rsquo;d be able to interpret it myself unless someone else translated it into whatever they think it means. It goes that way for many societies. We have things translated so we can understand it in our language, but there&rsquo;s no way of knowing whether the person who translated it is correct unless you speak with the original writers themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: KiaTNique</title>
		<link>http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/the-xxx-bible-who-wouldve-thought/comment-page-2/#comment-21721</link>
		<dc:creator>KiaTNique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me begin by saying that although I have not read the bible in its entirety, I think I am familiar enough with it to speak on it relatively accurately.  Being raised in the church, both Catholic and Anglican I have always been surrounded by the stories of the bible.  When I was younger and I was given children&#8217;s bible and watered down stories of the bible I thought that the bible was a book of good and righteous people to emulate such as Joseph, Abraham, Ester and Noah.  When I became older I realized that is not what the bible is actually about.  It shows the story of regular, sinful people, in their historical context and honestly what I read in the article reflects little different to that.  Why wouldn&#8217;t there be sexual references in the bible, there was definitely sex during that time or we wouldn&#8217;t exist.  The story that God used a bone from Adam&#8217;s penis to make Eve doesn&#8217;t make any more or less sense than the story of the rib.  God is all powerful and could have taken a lock of Adam&#8217;s hair to make Eve if he wanted to.  It changes the story of Adam and Eve none.   
Some other &#8220;sexual&#8221; things that were mentioned in the article like David circumcising the hundred Philistines and swearing oaths on your thighs and genitals should be taken in their historical context I think.   Apparently as I deduced from the article, it was to display manhood to prove that he deserved King Saul&#8217;s daughter.  Today men show their manhood by body building, playing sports, showing off their muscles or whatever they feel they need to do to impress a potential wife and her family.  The people in the bibles were humans living in a certain time when certain things that are not socially acceptable now were.  Who is to say that the things we deem socially acceptable and unacceptable are correct?  Swearing an oath on your thigh or genitals is not socially acceptable now but that doesn&#8217;t make it wrong.  It&#8217;s not as if the people doing it were trying to &#8220;cop a feel&#8221;.  They were being genuine about what they were swearing and wanted to convey that to whomever they were swearing that oath too.  I see nothing wrong with that.  What is funny to me is that we look at these things and call them vulgar but walking down the beach in a thong bathing suit is acceptable to us.  If we did that in biblical times we would probably be stoned to death or something to that effect.  
All in all I can definitely believe that these things are true, the negative things too, such as the incest, masturbation and &#8220;wasting of seeds&#8221;, but that doesn&#8217;t change my views of the bible or my faith at all. As I learned around the age of twelve or thirteen, the bible was never meant to be something rife with righteous to emulate, but rather a documentation of the times and in those times there were sinful as well as righteous people and practices.   If you thought it was then you misinterpreted it to begin with.   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me begin by saying that although I have not read the bible in its entirety, I think I am familiar enough with it to speak on it relatively accurately.  Being raised in the church, both Catholic and Anglican I have always been surrounded by the stories of the bible.  When I was younger and I was given children&rsquo;s bible and watered down stories of the bible I thought that the bible was a book of good and righteous people to emulate such as Joseph, Abraham, Ester and Noah.  When I became older I realized that is not what the bible is actually about.  It shows the story of regular, sinful people, in their historical context and honestly what I read in the article reflects little different to that.  Why wouldn&rsquo;t there be sexual references in the bible, there was definitely sex during that time or we wouldn&rsquo;t exist.  The story that God used a bone from Adam&rsquo;s penis to make Eve doesn&rsquo;t make any more or less sense than the story of the rib.  God is all powerful and could have taken a lock of Adam&rsquo;s hair to make Eve if he wanted to.  It changes the story of Adam and Eve none.<br />
Some other &ldquo;sexual&rdquo; things that were mentioned in the article like David circumcising the hundred Philistines and swearing oaths on your thighs and genitals should be taken in their historical context I think.   Apparently as I deduced from the article, it was to display manhood to prove that he deserved King Saul&rsquo;s daughter.  Today men show their manhood by body building, playing sports, showing off their muscles or whatever they feel they need to do to impress a potential wife and her family.  The people in the bibles were humans living in a certain time when certain things that are not socially acceptable now were.  Who is to say that the things we deem socially acceptable and unacceptable are correct?  Swearing an oath on your thigh or genitals is not socially acceptable now but that doesn&rsquo;t make it wrong.  It&rsquo;s not as if the people doing it were trying to &ldquo;cop a feel&rdquo;.  They were being genuine about what they were swearing and wanted to convey that to whomever they were swearing that oath too.  I see nothing wrong with that.  What is funny to me is that we look at these things and call them vulgar but walking down the beach in a thong bathing suit is acceptable to us.  If we did that in biblical times we would probably be stoned to death or something to that effect.<br />
All in all I can definitely believe that these things are true, the negative things too, such as the incest, masturbation and &ldquo;wasting of seeds&rdquo;, but that doesn&rsquo;t change my views of the bible or my faith at all. As I learned around the age of twelve or thirteen, the bible was never meant to be something rife with righteous to emulate, but rather a documentation of the times and in those times there were sinful as well as righteous people and practices.   If you thought it was then you misinterpreted it to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: loveofmylife89</title>
		<link>http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/the-xxx-bible-who-wouldve-thought/comment-page-2/#comment-21706</link>
		<dc:creator>loveofmylife89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bible is such a sensitive topic to talk about period. No matter what side you stand on, you always walk out from a conversation about religion, especially Christianity heated and read to even give up living  in this world and believing in anything supernatural power. What many people don&#039;t understand about the Bible is its validity. It is said that God appointed these men/women to write these verses and chapters that make up the Bible but with all these different versions, the King James, NIV, New American, Contemporary, etc. How are we suppose to know that those who translated it did not have any biased as to how they read the message or what they thought was the main point of the original version.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bible is such a sensitive topic to talk about period. No matter what side you stand on, you always walk out from a conversation about religion, especially Christianity heated and read to even give up living  in this world and believing in anything supernatural power. What many people don&#039;t understand about the Bible is its validity. It is said that God appointed these men/women to write these verses and chapters that make up the Bible but with all these different versions, the King James, NIV, New American, Contemporary, etc. How are we suppose to know that those who translated it did not have any biased as to how they read the message or what they thought was the main point of the original version.</p>
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		<title>By: leah528</title>
		<link>http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/the-xxx-bible-who-wouldve-thought/comment-page-2/#comment-21423</link>
		<dc:creator>leah528</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have often thought about many of the points brought up in the article &quot;Adam&#039;s Family Jewels.&quot; Up until my junior year of high school, I attended Sunday school at my church, going every week in order to learn different things about the bible, as well as about myself and others. During my senior year, I actually helped to teach the preschool aged children from our congregation. However, before I began to teach, our Sunday school class often had very interesting conversations. For a few weeks, all we did is learn about controversial bible verses, and talk about how they made us feel. Of course, we started at the beginning, with Adam and Eve. Our main conversation topic there was about how their children would&#039;ve practiced incest in order to populate the entire earth. If you think about it, there is really no way around this fact. It is also mentioned in the article, &quot;Adam&#039;s Family Jewels.&quot; The author wrote, &quot;Take incest. Adam and Eve&#8217;s sons and daughters couldn&#8217;t have perpetuated the human race without it.&quot; Both me, and my Sunday school class back home, completely agree with the article in this sense. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often thought about many of the points brought up in the article &#8220;Adam&#39;s Family Jewels.&#8221; Up until my junior year of high school, I attended Sunday school at my church, going every week in order to learn different things about the bible, as well as about myself and others. During my senior year, I actually helped to teach the preschool aged children from our congregation. However, before I began to teach, our Sunday school class often had very interesting conversations. For a few weeks, all we did is learn about controversial bible verses, and talk about how they made us feel. Of course, we started at the beginning, with Adam and Eve. Our main conversation topic there was about how their children would&#39;ve practiced incest in order to populate the entire earth. If you think about it, there is really no way around this fact. It is also mentioned in the article, &#8220;Adam&#39;s Family Jewels.&#8221; The author wrote, &#8220;Take incest. Adam and Eve&rsquo;s sons and daughters couldn&rsquo;t have perpetuated the human race without it.&#8221; Both me, and my Sunday school class back home, completely agree with the article in this sense.</p>
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