Comments on: This Is Getting to Be Too Much http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/ "A tiny act can have profound effects." Wed, 06 Oct 2010 00:09:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: jar5199 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/comment-page-3/#comment-25634 jar5199 Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:38:11 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1929#comment-25634 I think that Sam poses a good point here in the fact that these two people in no way, shape or form represent the campus at the University of California San Diego. I remember us talking early on in the semester about “themed” parties and why white people do that. I couldn’t really come up with a good answer to that question but I know for a fact that here it just crosses the line. A party themed “Compton Cookout,” is just outrageously discriminatory. What do these kids know about growing up in one of the most impoverished areas in California? Likely nothing. Also another issue is the fact that California, usually a liberal state needs to quickly find a new policy to diversify their state college campuses. It really becomes a problem when there is 103 enrolled blacks at the Los Angeles Campus. Now that is truly surprising and something that needs to be fixed. I think that Sam poses a good point here in the fact that these two people in no way, shape or form represent the campus at the University of California San Diego. I remember us talking early on in the semester about “themed” parties and why white people do that. I couldn’t really come up with a good answer to that question but I know for a fact that here it just crosses the line. A party themed “Compton Cookout,” is just outrageously discriminatory. What do these kids know about growing up in one of the most impoverished areas in California? Likely nothing. Also another issue is the fact that California, usually a liberal state needs to quickly find a new policy to diversify their state college campuses. It really becomes a problem when there is 103 enrolled blacks at the Los Angeles Campus. Now that is truly surprising and something that needs to be fixed.

]]> By: Joshuadrewes http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/comment-page-3/#comment-25270 Joshuadrewes Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:00:34 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1929#comment-25270 USCSD is a beautiful campus. I do not know why they are not attracting more black students...however, given the stats mentioned in this article-whites being 30 percent, Hispanics 20 percent, and asians 30 percent, seems like a diverse representation. The other statistic stating blacks make up 6 percent of San Diego County while only making up 2 percent of the student body of USCSD should not imply that USCSD is racist in anyway...USCSD is located around La Jolla and Torrey Pines which are upper class white areas...my point is that USCSD is not the only university in southern California and the reason for it's low number of black students enrolled is simply demographics. It seems-by the wording of this article-that the faculty is beginning to get some heat for this Compton cook out nonsense. The press goes wild over stories like this. Especially liberal print companies such as the New York Times. It seems to me that this was simply an isolated incident of bad taste. Jigga Boo Jones is a fool out for his own interests...by interests of course I mean money. We have seen people do this before. It is pathetic that one would exploit there own community for self gain but many stoop that low. The idiot student body were probably more interested iin getting drunk than hurting feelings. I'm sure dumber things have happened on this campus as well. In a perfect world people could get drunk in large groups without hurting anyones feelings. How unfortunate we are not that lucky. In conclusion I have driven through Compton and agree it is worthy of making fun of...but in good taste of course! USCSD is a beautiful campus. I do not know why they are not attracting more black students…however, given the stats mentioned in this article-whites being 30 percent, Hispanics 20 percent, and asians 30 percent, seems like a diverse representation. The other statistic stating blacks make up 6 percent of San Diego County while only making up 2 percent of the student body of USCSD should not imply that USCSD is racist in anyway…USCSD is located around La Jolla and Torrey Pines which are upper class white areas…my point is that USCSD is not the only university in southern California and the reason for it's low number of black students enrolled is simply demographics. It seems-by the wording of this article-that the faculty is beginning to get some heat for this Compton cook out nonsense. The press goes wild over stories like this. Especially liberal print companies such as the New York Times. It seems to me that this was simply an isolated incident of bad taste. Jigga Boo Jones is a fool out for his own interests…by interests of course I mean money. We have seen people do this before. It is pathetic that one would exploit there own community for self gain but many stoop that low. The idiot student body were probably more interested iin getting drunk than hurting feelings. I'm sure dumber things have happened on this campus as well. In a perfect world people could get drunk in large groups without hurting anyones feelings. How unfortunate we are not that lucky. In conclusion I have driven through Compton and agree it is worthy of making fun of…but in good taste of course!

]]> By: dqb5081 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/comment-page-3/#comment-24879 dqb5081 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:52:27 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1929#comment-24879 I agree almost wholeheartedly with your post. There is no reason for such silly behavior, especially such that is not intended to do much harm and that is more a joke than anything else. Yes, a noose is serious, but at the University of San-Diego, I have strong doubts that there will actually be any racial violence associated with such items. Honestly, there must be someone behind the scenes attempting to accentuate what they see as tension without any actual intentions of making anything happen. I also agree that designating two people to speak in regard to the problem creates a dead end in regard to discussion. Whoever the news network chooses to speak about the problem, and what they say is going to be pretty uniform and predictable. Without even watching the interviews, (or “round table discussion,” whatever they want to call it) I am already almost positive that the President of the Black student union will be displeased about the latest “wrinkle” (as anyone would be), call for these actions to stop, and ask for the school to take action against these destructive happenings. The school leader, in return, will address the student, acknowledge that these actions are horrifying or some similar over-reacting adjective, and then say that the school is doing all that it can to combat the problem, when in actuality they are waiting for it to die down. I believe that this type of press happens far too often, as Sam said, accomplishes nothing, and may be even stifling to the conversation that could actually solve problems. That being said, what conversation, network interview, protest, rally or demonstration is going to find the one joker that thought it would be hilarious to plant a piece of rope tied a certain way in a university building? I would bet that the individual who did the above action is sitting back and loving the amount of controversy he has stirred up, and for what? Almost nothing. As I said previously, I do not believe that a student at the university stated is going to make a serious move in regard to race or in regard to increasing tensions at the school. For a campus with such diversity, I believe that this individual is very pleased with the publicity he his getting, and does not really want to take it any farther. From this, I believe that there is really no need for such an uprising, and I can say that it is definitely an overreaction. Past that, I will say and agree that I would most likely do the exact same thing, though I also acknowledge that this would definitely be the wrong decision. Overall, if I feel that if I have something that I feel needs to be of solved, I will solve it by myself or with the help of my extremely close friends who I consider to be as close as my brothers. I feel that the bystander effect, as discussed earlier in class, is a huge part of what goes on in these campus wide demonstrations, and that the aim of the demonstration truly needs to be re-evaluated by these students who really expect to make a difference. I agree almost wholeheartedly with your post. There is no reason for such silly behavior, especially such that is not intended to do much harm and that is more a joke than anything else. Yes, a noose is serious, but at the University of San-Diego, I have strong doubts that there will actually be any racial violence associated with such items. Honestly, there must be someone behind the scenes attempting to accentuate what they see as tension without any actual intentions of making anything happen.
I also agree that designating two people to speak in regard to the problem creates a dead end in regard to discussion. Whoever the news network chooses to speak about the problem, and what they say is going to be pretty uniform and predictable. Without even watching the interviews, (or “round table discussion,” whatever they want to call it) I am already almost positive that the President of the Black student union will be displeased about the latest “wrinkle” (as anyone would be), call for these actions to stop, and ask for the school to take action against these destructive happenings. The school leader, in return, will address the student, acknowledge that these actions are horrifying or some similar over-reacting adjective, and then say that the school is doing all that it can to combat the problem, when in actuality they are waiting for it to die down.
I believe that this type of press happens far too often, as Sam said, accomplishes nothing, and may be even stifling to the conversation that could actually solve problems. That being said, what conversation, network interview, protest, rally or demonstration is going to find the one joker that thought it would be hilarious to plant a piece of rope tied a certain way in a university building? I would bet that the individual who did the above action is sitting back and loving the amount of controversy he has stirred up, and for what? Almost nothing. As I said previously, I do not believe that a student at the university stated is going to make a serious move in regard to race or in regard to increasing tensions at the school. For a campus with such diversity, I believe that this individual is very pleased with the publicity he his getting, and does not really want to take it any farther. From this, I believe that there is really no need for such an uprising, and I can say that it is definitely an overreaction. Past that, I will say and agree that I would most likely do the exact same thing, though I also acknowledge that this would definitely be the wrong decision.
Overall, if I feel that if I have something that I feel needs to be of solved, I will solve it by myself or with the help of my extremely close friends who I consider to be as close as my brothers. I feel that the bystander effect, as discussed earlier in class, is a huge part of what goes on in these campus wide demonstrations, and that the aim of the demonstration truly needs to be re-evaluated by these students who really expect to make a difference.

]]> By: meganscooter http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/comment-page-3/#comment-25055 meganscooter Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:28:38 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1929#comment-25055 Any incident that contains a noose is a bad thing! I think this is so ridiculous. Although, I think the big question here is that does it make a difference that it was a minority that hung the noose. Whoever did that...I don't care what freaking color you are, i.e. purple, green... it is unmoral. Who the hell sits around and thinks of doing that shit. I noticed the lady mentioned that it could possibly not be true that it was a black guy who suggested this party. Unfortunately, we do live in a world where people hate other people, just because of their religion, skin color, or affiliations and not by our character. I feel that this was not the proper way to handle this situation either. The school should have a mandatory seminar maybe? I am not sure what a good alternative would be, but it just seemed like they did this just to shut people up and make them happy, which is offensive. I think the whole party is a terrible disgrace to white people. Meaning who the hell do they think they are. Being a white female I feel that if we want to make a difference in the world white people can't go on pretending that we are cool and down if we continue to do shit like this. It's so embarrassing being white sometimes because there are white people that are racists, no one can deny that, but it just puts a bad name on all of us, and its like people of color see me a different way when only meeting me for the first time, but I love everyone..I'm like a tree huger but for people. Honestly I hate that people hate people. I mean we can hate George bush, Hitler and Taylor Swift (JK)...people like have an exception. Whatever God that you believe in, loves the Earth's people, so I don't know what all the fuss is about. I don't care what color, religion, or social class...we are all people and none of those things makes one person better than the other. White people might be scared that black and brown people were the original people and God forbid they would ever teach you that in school. So I think naturally white people come off this way because they feel inferior. A big problem with this story is the fact that the party was trying to depict "black people". Sure the characteristics listed on the invitations could be a black person, but its the media and the stereotyping that keeps this on going, same with white trash, Jews, Asians that can't drive, etc. The problem is that I know plenty of white people or any color that do the same shit....blunts, 40's, gold necklaces... It's scary that people are taking the time out of their life to tie nooses. It's just so much hatred its sad. It sounds gay...but...can't we just all get along wtf. We are all living on this earth filled with approximately 7 billion people. It's like come on already, why don't we stop tying nooses and throwing disrespectful and racists parties and start helping to make a difference. There are so many people starving and dying from diseases even in our own country that it just seems like our priorities are mixed up. Its baffling. All I can say is that its just sad, really fucking sad. Any incident that contains a noose is a bad thing! I think this is so ridiculous. Although, I think the big question here is that does it make a difference that it was a minority that hung the noose. Whoever did that…I don't care what freaking color you are, i.e. purple, green… it is unmoral. Who the hell sits around and thinks of doing that shit. I noticed the lady mentioned that it could possibly not be true that it was a black guy who suggested this party. Unfortunately, we do live in a world where people hate other people, just because of their religion, skin color, or affiliations and not by our character. I feel that this was not the proper way to handle this situation either. The school should have a mandatory seminar maybe? I am not sure what a good alternative would be, but it just seemed like they did this just to shut people up and make them happy, which is offensive. I think the whole party is a terrible disgrace to white people. Meaning who the hell do they think they are. Being a white female I feel that if we want to make a difference in the world white people can't go on pretending that we are cool and down if we continue to do shit like this. It's so embarrassing being white sometimes because there are white people that are racists, no one can deny that, but it just puts a bad name on all of us, and its like people of color see me a different way when only meeting me for the first time, but I love everyone..I'm like a tree huger but for people. Honestly I hate that people hate people. I mean we can hate George bush, Hitler and Taylor Swift (JK)…people like have an exception. Whatever God that you believe in, loves the Earth's people, so I don't know what all the fuss is about. I don't care what color, religion, or social class…we are all people and none of those things makes one person better than the other. White people might be scared that black and brown people were the original people and God forbid they would ever teach you that in school. So I think naturally white people come off this way because they feel inferior. A big problem with this story is the fact that the party was trying to depict "black people". Sure the characteristics listed on the invitations could be a black person, but its the media and the stereotyping that keeps this on going, same with white trash, Jews, Asians that can't drive, etc. The problem is that I know plenty of white people or any color that do the same shit….blunts, 40's, gold necklaces… It's scary that people are taking the time out of their life to tie nooses. It's just so much hatred its sad. It sounds gay…but…can't we just all get along wtf. We are all living on this earth filled with approximately 7 billion people. It's like come on already, why don't we stop tying nooses and throwing disrespectful and racists parties and start helping to make a difference. There are so many people starving and dying from diseases even in our own country that it just seems like our priorities are mixed up. Its baffling. All I can say is that its just sad, really fucking sad.

]]> By: GreekForHire http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/comment-page-3/#comment-24775 GreekForHire Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:06:21 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1929#comment-24775 I’ll start by saying that the situation that started this whole mess is nothing short of ridiculous. I mean, everyone should be comfortable with a little satire from time to time, even at the expense of your culture or race, but there is a line between well meaning humor and complete disrespect. That being said, I doubt that many of the kids that were involved in this were truly racist. Rather, they’re just stupid. Mostly it comes down to ignorance. Not necessarily as to what occurred, but what it means. After all, how can a white person every truly appreciate what it means to be black? To have that kind of history. Most can’t, and this is the result. Hopefully people will keep this in mind before doing something so freaking stupid in the future. I’ll start by saying that the situation that started this whole mess is nothing short of ridiculous. I mean, everyone should be comfortable with a little satire from time to time, even at the expense of your culture or race, but there is a line between well meaning humor and complete disrespect. That being said, I doubt that many of the kids that were involved in this were truly racist. Rather, they’re just stupid. Mostly it comes down to ignorance. Not necessarily as to what occurred, but what it means. After all, how can a white person every truly appreciate what it means to be black? To have that kind of history. Most can’t, and this is the result. Hopefully people will keep this in mind before doing something so freaking stupid in the future.

]]> By: erc5036 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/comment-page-3/#comment-24768 erc5036 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:56:50 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1929#comment-24768 The third incident that was described is by far the most offensive. I do not blame people for any kind of protesting after the discovery of the noose in the library was made. Not only does this symbol conjure up images of slavery, it is also extremely threatening. A themed party is one thing, but a noose is blatant racism. In the end, there definitely seems to be a need for some kind of race relations work to take place in San Diego. While a lot of damage has been done, it is never too soon to try to get people to respect one another. The third incident that was described is by far the most offensive. I do not blame people for any kind of protesting after the discovery of the noose in the library was made. Not only does this symbol conjure up images of slavery, it is also extremely threatening. A themed party is one thing, but a noose is blatant racism. In the end, there definitely seems to be a need for some kind of race relations work to take place in San Diego. While a lot of damage has been done, it is never too soon to try to get people to respect one another.

]]> By: erc5036 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/comment-page-3/#comment-24766 erc5036 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:56:27 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1929#comment-24766 First, the Compton party that was described in the article pretty much sounds to me like a typical themed party that could happen on any college campus. Themed parties, such as this one definitely are not isolated events. In fact, themed parties, similar to a Compton party occur here at Penn State. I personally feel that these parties are fairly harmless. If anyone is victimized by themed parties I feel that it is women more so than minorities. They are not really meant to hurt anyone. I can see how someone can disagree with this and say that they are offended, but in my opinion this is the least severe of the three incidents that occurred in California. I do feel though that the broadcast connected with this Compton party was wrong. While parties like this do happen, it was definitely not right to use a racial epithet and put the spotlight on this kind of a gathering. Satire or not, it was a dumb decision that just added fuel to the fire. It was an especially dumb decision to broadcast a portion of this event at a school where there seems to be some kind of racial divide. First, the Compton party that was described in the article pretty much sounds to me like a typical themed party that could happen on any college campus. Themed parties, such as this one definitely are not isolated events. In fact, themed parties, similar to a Compton party occur here at Penn State. I personally feel that these parties are fairly harmless. If anyone is victimized by themed parties I feel that it is women more so than minorities. They are not really meant to hurt anyone. I can see how someone can disagree with this and say that they are offended, but in my opinion this is the least severe of the three incidents that occurred in California. I do feel though that the broadcast connected with this Compton party was wrong. While parties like this do happen, it was definitely not right to use a racial epithet and put the spotlight on this kind of a gathering. Satire or not, it was a dumb decision that just added fuel to the fire. It was an especially dumb decision to broadcast a portion of this event at a school where there seems to be some kind of racial divide.

]]> By: erc5036 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/comment-page-3/#comment-24765 erc5036 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:55:58 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1929#comment-24765 I have to say that since I joined my current sociology class, I had never really given much thought to the idea of race relations. I have always thought it best to live by that golden rule that everyone always references. I know, however, now through the course that I am taking that racism is a much larger problem than I originally thought it was. It is surprising to learn that this kind of unrest can still exist at an American university today. Having read the article, I can see that at least some of the problems that they are having in San Diego stem from the surprisingly low incoming minority population. I think that it is human nature that people become angry when they are part of a small group and they are getting discriminated against by an overwhelmingly larger one. Having said this, I feel that two of the “racist” incidents described in this article are worse than the remaining one. I have to say that since I joined my current sociology class, I had never really given much thought to the idea of race relations. I have always thought it best to live by that golden rule that everyone always references. I know, however, now through the course that I am taking that racism is a much larger problem than I originally thought it was. It is surprising to learn that this kind of unrest can still exist at an American university today. Having read the article, I can see that at least some of the problems that they are having in San Diego stem from the surprisingly low incoming minority population. I think that it is human nature that people become angry when they are part of a small group and they are getting discriminated against by an overwhelmingly larger one. Having said this, I feel that two of the “racist” incidents described in this article are worse than the remaining one.

]]> By: colin56 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/comment-page-3/#comment-24723 colin56 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:40:20 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1929#comment-24723 Im pretty sure that this started as a joke especially if the person who hung the noose is black. Why would he do something so racist towards himself unless he were making a joke about it. People usually dont say or do embarrassing/offensive things to themselves unless they have some humility about it. But even though a black person hung the noose it was not necessarily a joke he could have been doing it to start some shit with everyone. It might have been a big prank gone wrong. I know i used to pull pranks in school and one time it did go wrong and people were mad and i got in trouble, but getting into trouble is sometimes just what people are going to do. I know that everyone there is really stirred up about this but it clearly needed to happen. There must have been a lot of racial tension built up there for it to have to come to this for people to start talking about it. Im sure a lot of people who may not have been offended by the party or the noose or anything got in on the fighting and such just to be a part of it. Regardless of the intentions of the people who organized this event or the person who hung the noose this party turned into a much needed eyeopener for the people in and around the community. When people start to see this kind of tensions and problems between races they naturally have to put up their own feeling about it, which is what needs to happen. Sam always talks about the race table and white people sitting back and not being a part of the conversation but when this happens white people see what is going on and they must give their feelings about it which will eventually (hopefully) lead to people getting over their issues with the other race and the original tension that started this problem will be gone. I dont think that things such as themed parties and other creative outlets can be regarded as blatant racism. It is too ordinary for people to take them seriously and project their own racist preconceptions onto them in order to become the victim. Not everything in the world is intended for you. And if it wasnt intended for you then you have to assume that it was not meant to be offensive since you do not know who the person who did it. You cant deem something as an action intended to offend if you dont know the person responsible. It is okay in this world to let things go right away and not dwell on them for a long time, a lot of people feel like it is required by them to create drama. Im pretty sure that this started as a joke especially if the person who hung the noose is black. Why would he do something so racist towards himself unless he were making a joke about it. People usually dont say or do embarrassing/offensive things to themselves unless they have some humility about it. But even though a black person hung the noose it was not necessarily a joke he could have been doing it to start some shit with everyone. It might have been a big prank gone wrong. I know i used to pull pranks in school and one time it did go wrong and people were mad and i got in trouble, but getting into trouble is sometimes just what people are going to do.
I know that everyone there is really stirred up about this but it clearly needed to happen. There must have been a lot of racial tension built up there for it to have to come to this for people to start talking about it. Im sure a lot of people who may not have been offended by the party or the noose or anything got in on the fighting and such just to be a part of it.
Regardless of the intentions of the people who organized this event or the person who hung the noose this party turned into a much needed eyeopener for the people in and around the community. When people start to see this kind of tensions and problems between races they naturally have to put up their own feeling about it, which is what needs to happen. Sam always talks about the race table and white people sitting back and not being a part of the conversation but when this happens white people see what is going on and they must give their feelings about it which will eventually (hopefully) lead to people getting over their issues with the other race and the original tension that started this problem will be gone.
I dont think that things such as themed parties and other creative outlets can be regarded as blatant racism. It is too ordinary for people to take them seriously and project their own racist preconceptions onto them in order to become the victim. Not everything in the world is intended for you. And if it wasnt intended for you then you have to assume that it was not meant to be offensive since you do not know who the person who did it. You cant deem something as an action intended to offend if you dont know the person responsible. It is okay in this world to let things go right away and not dwell on them for a long time, a lot of people feel like it is required by them to create drama.

]]> By: yesec9 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/this-is-getting-to-be-too-much/comment-page-3/#comment-24701 yesec9 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:11:54 +0000 http://www.racerelationsproject.org/?p=1929#comment-24701 No, she was asking if it made any "difference". Yes, it does make a difference. No it doesn't make it "better" or "worse" It just has different (but both) implications for race relations. Had it been done by a white person, it would be a perpetuation of the historical discrimination against blacks and a demonstration of racism. But since it was done by a black person, in my opinion, it symbolized the need (want) to have reparations and get even, and, as well, a demonstration of racism. They are both bad. Both instances set everyone (White, Black, Hispanic, Mixed, Whatever) back several notches and indicate that our troubles with racism from all parties is far from over. I am frankly not surprised at the incident though. It seems to go along with all of the resent from past atrocities. I disagree with a lot of what the people in the video were saying, by the way, if that isn't already clear. Though I do agree that education is needed (I wasn't aware of all of the issues until this year, and I owe it to PL SC 110 and SOC), if it is a one-sided viewpoint from a majority of ANY race then it will be biased. If this incident is people "getting fired up about nothing", then if the perpetrator were of a different race and people did in fact still got fired up (which I totally think would happen), then it's not about "nothing" because it involved black people. The explanation behind it and the implications it would have...are surely different but the harm is there just the same. No, she was asking if it made any "difference". Yes, it does make a difference. No it doesn't make it "better" or "worse" It just has different (but both) implications for race relations. Had it been done by a white person, it would be a perpetuation of the historical discrimination against blacks and a demonstration of racism. But since it was done by a black person, in my opinion, it symbolized the need (want) to have reparations and get even, and, as well, a demonstration of racism. They are both bad. Both instances set everyone (White, Black, Hispanic, Mixed, Whatever) back several notches and indicate that our troubles with racism from all parties is far from over. I am frankly not surprised at the incident though. It seems to go along with all of the resent from past atrocities. I disagree with a lot of what the people in the video were saying, by the way, if that isn't already clear. Though I do agree that education is needed (I wasn't aware of all of the issues until this year, and I owe it to PL SC 110 and SOC), if it is a one-sided viewpoint from a majority of ANY race then it will be biased.

If this incident is people "getting fired up about nothing", then if the perpetrator were of a different race and people did in fact still got fired up (which I totally think would happen), then it's not about "nothing" because it involved black people. The explanation behind it and the implications it would have…are surely different but the harm is there just the same.

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